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Brian Hoffies
Posted 3/27/2022 4:00 PM (#1003890)
Subject: question for Steve





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I probably missed this on the Podcast and if so sorry to bother you now. What size jig did you use when jigging?

BTW, loved the Podcast!
sworrall
Posted 3/27/2022 6:32 PM (#1003896 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: RE: question for Steve





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
1/4 ounce to 1/3 ounce in the weeds, and 1 to 11/8 ounce on the rocks. The interview was fun, Andrew does a great job.
North of 8
Posted 3/27/2022 7:35 PM (#1003899 - in reply to #1003896)
Subject: RE: question for Steve




sworrall - 3/27/2022 6:32 PM

1/4 ounce to 1/3 ounce in the weeds, and 1 to 11/8 ounce on the rocks. The interview was fun, Andrew does a great job.


Ok, that was a question I had as well but your answer leaves me with another question. One specific area I was thinking of using this method on has both heavy weeds and boulders/good sized rocks. Really not able to fish seperately. I am thinking maybe 3/4 oz. stand up jig?
sworrall
Posted 3/27/2022 9:25 PM (#1003901 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: Re: question for Steve





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
All the jigs I use are stand-up style. How deep are the weeds and rock?
North of 8
Posted 3/27/2022 9:36 PM (#1003902 - in reply to #1003901)
Subject: Re: question for Steve




sworrall - 3/27/2022 9:25 PM

All the jigs I use are stand-up style. How deep are the weeds and rock?


The weeds and rock are roughly 3 to 4 feet deep. I used to think the area was almost all weeds, with some large boulders until I got side imaging and saw there were some areas of large rocks mixed in.
mm3
Posted 3/27/2022 9:51 PM (#1003903 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: RE: question for Steve




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Location: Northern Illinois
Worrall:

First thing is good job on the Podcast and your talk about jig fishing for muskies. You've clearly got a passion for it and anytime someone has that much passion about something they are going to be good at it.

Couple of questions:
1. Can you post a picture of your all-time favorite muskie jig and trailer?
2. Do you ever put a jig spinner arm with a blade attached to the jig or do you feel
this detracts from the life-like action of the jig and trailer?



Edited by mm3 3/27/2022 9:53 PM
sworrall
Posted 3/27/2022 10:14 PM (#1003904 - in reply to #1003902)
Subject: Re: question for Steve





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
North of 8 - 3/27/2022 9:36 PM

sworrall - 3/27/2022 9:25 PM

All the jigs I use are stand-up style. How deep are the weeds and rock?


The weeds and rock are roughly 3 to 4 feet deep. I used to think the area was almost all weeds, with some large boulders until I got side imaging and saw there were some areas of large rocks mixed in.


1/4 ounce powerhead with a Fliptail Creature. Keith has them on the Violent Strike website. The shallower you go, the lighter the jig needs to be so it has some drop time.
sworrall
Posted 3/27/2022 10:30 PM (#1003906 - in reply to #1003903)
Subject: RE: question for Steve





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
mm3 - 3/27/2022 9:51 PM

Worrall:

First thing is good job on the Podcast and your talk about jig fishing for muskies. You've clearly got a passion for it and anytime someone has that much passion about something they are going to be good at it.

Couple of questions:
1. Can you post a picture of your all-time favorite muskie jig and trailer?
2. Do you ever put a jig spinner arm with a blade attached to the jig or do you feel
this detracts from the life-like action of the jig and trailer?



No spinner arms attached to the jig. A friend of mine, Walt Fox, built the first creature with a spinner off the tail back in the 70's. Curtis refined it, but it's more of a spinnerbait than a creature in behavior. jdsplasher makes a good one with my original Super Creature body, see the Basement Baits forum.


The attached image is my Dad's original swimmer head and a Fliptail creature I designed for Stembridge Products, this is the one I use on rocks, deep breaks, and outside weed edges.


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mm3
Posted 3/27/2022 10:45 PM (#1003907 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: RE: question for Steve




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Location: Northern Illinois
Thanks!
North of 8
Posted 3/28/2022 7:09 AM (#1003909 - in reply to #1003904)
Subject: Re: question for Steve




sworrall - 3/27/2022 10:14 PM

North of 8 - 3/27/2022 9:36 PM

sworrall - 3/27/2022 9:25 PM

All the jigs I use are stand-up style. How deep are the weeds and rock?


The weeds and rock are roughly 3 to 4 feet deep. I used to think the area was almost all weeds, with some large boulders until I got side imaging and saw there were some areas of large rocks mixed in.


1/4 ounce powerhead with a Fliptail Creature. Keith has them on the Violent Strike website. The shallower you go, the lighter the jig needs to be so it has some drop time.

Thanks, would not thought to go that light.
chuckski
Posted 3/29/2022 11:45 AM (#1003956 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: Re: question for Steve




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What kind of line do you use ? Braid? Mono? and how heavy? and what kind of leader?
sworrall
Posted 3/29/2022 3:45 PM (#1003969 - in reply to #1003956)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
17# mono or 50# braid. 60# seven strand leader.
Ranger
Posted 3/29/2022 5:18 PM (#1003978 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: Re: question for Steve





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Check out....

Musky Mastery by Steve Heiting, 1992. Chapter 2 is "Jigs and Reapers with Gene Curtis".
sworrall
Posted 3/29/2022 5:39 PM (#1003980 - in reply to #1003978)
Subject: Re: question for Steve





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

Creature fishing discussions:

 

Online chat for 2009

How it all started: History and Technique

2005 article: Of Jigs and Muskies

 Musky Hunter reprinted a Gene Curtis article recently.

Muskie Junkie
Posted 3/30/2022 10:35 AM (#1004005 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: Re: question for Steve





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OK, now I am really intrigued. Been wanting to catch a fish on a jig for sometime. Being a member of the Flatlanders Chapter of Muskies Inc. for which I understand Gene Curtis was originally from has always peeked my interest. With that said, where do I find the podcast?
Steve
Brian Hoffies
Posted 3/30/2022 10:51 AM (#1004006 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: Re: question for Steve





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Here:

https://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=14...
North of 8
Posted 3/30/2022 12:42 PM (#1004011 - in reply to #1004006)
Subject: Re: question for Steve




Hmmm, I have this image of the lakes in northern WI with lots of folks tossing half ounce jigs/creatures with spinning rods for muskies, instead of 10" minnow baits and double 10 bucktails with 9' XH casting rods. The walleye fishermen ae going be so confused.
Muskie Junkie
Posted 3/30/2022 1:34 PM (#1004015 - in reply to #1003890)
Subject: Re: question for Steve





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Thank you for the link.
RF_Musky
Posted 3/31/2022 6:43 AM (#1004041 - in reply to #1003890)
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Do you ever rig creatures with stinger hooks, or do you stay with just the jig head ?
sworrall
Posted 3/31/2022 9:50 AM (#1004054 - in reply to #1004041)
Subject: Re: question for Steve





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I've never felt the need to put another hook on a creature, usually, the muskie is buttoned up nicely.
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