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Nershi
Posted 9/9/2014 4:58 PM (#729364 - in reply to #728963)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Location: MN
I am glad these guys took action. I have heard the Canadian game and fish authorities do not mess around. Hopefully they give this guy what he deserves.

muskie-don58 - 9/7/2014 6:52 AM

We need to arm ourselves with information that proves a fishery with a healthy muskie population is a healthier fishery of all species including the "favorites". Is this not true ?


When I hear walleye guys share their dislike for the "walleye eating musky" I point out that the a lot of the best walleye fisheries in Minnesota contain muskies: LOTW, Leech, Winnie, St Louis River, Vermillion, Cass, Mille Lacs, Detroit Lakes...the list goes on. I am guessing you could compile a similar list for other states and Canada.

Most of these lakes are also excellent for big pannies, bass and/or pike.

There are scientific studies that show data that Muskie do not have a major effect on other fish populations but pointing out this simple fact seems to be more productive in getting them to second guess their viewpoint than referencing a study.
fishpmc
Posted 9/9/2014 5:15 PM (#729367 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River




Posts: 42


I hope this POS will never be allowed to fish another day in his life. Thanks to the guys who confronted this moran who killed the fish.
mnmusky
Posted 9/9/2014 5:33 PM (#729369 - in reply to #729364)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Nershi - 9/9/2014 4:58 PM

I am glad these guys took action. I have heard the Canadian game and fish authorities do not mess around. Hopefully they give this guy what he deserves.

muskie-don58 - 9/7/2014 6:52 AM

We need to arm ourselves with information that proves a fishery with a healthy muskie population is a healthier fishery of all species including the "favorites". Is this not true ?


When I hear walleye guys share their dislike for the "walleye eating musky" I point out that the a lot of the best walleye fisheries in Minnesota contain muskies: LOTW, Leech, Winnie, St Louis River, Vermillion, Cass, Mille Lacs, Detroit Lakes...the list goes on. I am guessing you could compile a similar list for other states and Canada.

Most of these lakes are also excellent for big pannies, bass and/or pike.

There are scientific studies that show data that Muskie do not have a major effect on other fish populations but pointing out this simple fact seems to be more productive in getting them to second guess their viewpoint than referencing a study.


those are the guys with their freezers PACKED with walleye and look for reasons other than themselves to blame for less than ideal fishing.
bigfoot
Posted 9/9/2014 8:56 PM (#729394 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River





Posts: 246


Location: Grand Marais, MN
I Really like the disgruntled looking still photo of that guy at the end

I hear the musky eat panfish/perch/walleye population to extinction argument all the time, strangely enough from anglers who cant find fish/ fished their water to death for 40 years and need something else to blame.
edalz
Posted 9/10/2014 11:01 AM (#729465 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 458


Just a matter of time now.
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/caught-on-video-anglers-confront-...
esoxaddict
Posted 9/10/2014 2:37 PM (#729500 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 8733


"We used to go out on Friday and catch 50 walleyes for our Friday night fish fry. Now we're lucky to get 20. The muskies are eating them all!"

I told a guy this once:

"They usually eat suckers, redhorse, bullheads, and all the other fish that eat walleye eggs. Even if they do eat the occasional walleye, a musky only eats a fish every couple days. You guys wipe out more walleyes in a weekend than a musky will eat in it's entire life."

But then you can't tell people like this anything. They heard once from cletus in the bar. That's all it takes.
woodieb8
Posted 9/10/2014 4:29 PM (#729516 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Posts: 1529


the argument of fish eating other fish. if one was to look at biological factors and invasive species then they could afford a formed opinion. . st clairs sight feeders enjoyed a population increase. at the zebra mussel invasion most of us moved our charteboats to l.erie. truthfully we never cracked the new code. theres lots of walleyes/perct etc in st clair. re-learn how to fish and theres lots for a meal..a statement in the area paper .ive known eddy 40 years. he had a bad day. the eddy I saw in the video clubbing musky is a poacher. . either her standards are very low or she don't know this eddy. the guy that sells walleyes. snares rabbits illegally.. themnr in Ontario have first prioritized this clubbing because sportsmen care on there lakes/outdoors.
Lunger50
Posted 9/10/2014 6:03 PM (#729542 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Posts: 90


http://www.windsorstar.com/index.html

His rebuttal, video top right.

He's sorry he got caught... Idiot
mnmusky
Posted 9/10/2014 6:14 PM (#729543 - in reply to #729542)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Lunger50 - 9/10/2014 6:03 PM

http://www.windsorstar.com/index.html

His rebuttal, video top right.

He's sorry he got caught... Idiot


wow....He Cant even lie well. Living garbage.....Ish!
Pointerpride102
Posted 9/10/2014 6:17 PM (#729544 - in reply to #729542)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Anyone have a direct link to his "rebuttal"? The posted link doesn't work on my mobile device.
Farmer Rick
Posted 9/10/2014 6:45 PM (#729547 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Location: Not far enough north!
All Bull... He will never do this again though, in daylight when someone else is around.
Hop
Posted 9/10/2014 6:58 PM (#729553 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Posts: 100


You have to be kidding! What a joke!
Bondy
Posted 9/10/2014 7:02 PM (#729556 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River




Posts: 718


Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say.
esoxaddict
Posted 9/10/2014 7:49 PM (#729562 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 8733


I watched about 10 seconds of it and I thought: "Aw, SHUT UP, you asshat!!"

Aw... now he's "sorry"...

He's "sorry" because he got caught and now he's got a target on his backside.

He's "sorry" because his lawyer told him he had better be.

He's "sorry" because he was too stupid to predict the crapstorm he just brought on himself.

If he had an ounce of sorry in him, he'd have thrown the fish back BEFORE he clubbed it.

Oh well. He may as well walk around with a shirt that says "I'm a D-bag!" at this point.

There's no excuse he can make now that's going to fix anything.
Pointerpride102
Posted 9/10/2014 8:07 PM (#729564 - in reply to #729556)
Subject: RE: Detroit River





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Bondy - 9/10/2014 7:02 PM

Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say.


Wanton waste.

I know in some places the CO (usually Captain or LT) can recommend revocation.
edalz
Posted 9/10/2014 9:19 PM (#729577 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 458


I would think the boat was used in the crime so maybe they should take the boat. He is "sorry" because he got and why did he have the club in the boat? He's a lying POS and Karmas a good guy.
Zib
Posted 9/10/2014 9:55 PM (#729586 - in reply to #729577)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 1405


Location: Detroit River

edalz - 9/10/2014 10:19 PM I would think the boat was used in the crime so maybe they should take the boat. He is "sorry" because he got and why did he have the club in the boat? He's a lying POS and Karmas a good guy.

 

It wasn't his boat from what I've heard. He's so full of crap when he claimed it was his first time doing that.

 

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/accused-muskie-hater-apologizes-for-killing-fish-and-heated-confrontation?fb_action_ids=10202688028191012&fb_action_types=og.comments

 

edalz
Posted 9/10/2014 10:06 PM (#729589 - in reply to #729586)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 458


I heard that as well but if I lend you my car and you get caught committing a crime in it then the police may confiscate the car. I'm sure the guy that lent out the boat is regretting his decision.
jchiggins
Posted 9/10/2014 11:16 PM (#729598 - in reply to #729564)
Subject: RE: Detroit River




Posts: 1757


Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn
Pointerpride102 - 9/10/2014 8:07 PM

Bondy - 9/10/2014 7:02 PM

Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say.


Wanton waste.

I know in some places the CO (usually Captain or LT) can recommend revocation.
Pointy is right on it. Bare minimum should be, illegal harvest of undersized fish and wanton waste.
lennyg3
Posted 9/10/2014 11:39 PM (#729600 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 483


Location: NE PA
What a scumbag.... I think that sums it up actually.
sworrall
Posted 9/23/2014 11:58 AM (#731494 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





Posts: 32813


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Here's the original thread. Protocol here is if the same topic is on the first page, one goes...because it makes no sense to have two active threads about exactly the same topic plugging up the board. If it's back a ways, then it may be news to some folks. I agree folks need to read more than the first couple threads, but some don't have the time....or inclination. That's understandably a little annoying to those who read most everything.

What reel for Double Tens?

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