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Pointerpride102
Posted 6/11/2014 9:31 PM (#715170)
Subject: Tuffy livewell issue





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Location: The desert
I'm having difficulty draining my livewell on my 1890. As an AIS guy, this is a minor problem as I can't transport water.

When I move the lever to empty and turn the livewell on the pump runs but it seems like it is recirculating the water as it pumps out of the black "thingy" near the top of the livewell.

Any ideas?

I don't really intend to use it much for holding water, but I'd like the ability to pump it out if necessary for cleanings etc.
Shep
Posted 6/12/2014 8:47 AM (#715215 - in reply to #715170)
Subject: RE: Tuffy livewell issue





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You don't run the pump to empty. If it doesn't drain when you move the control to empty, either the cable needs adjustment, or the drain line is plugged. It drains out the back under the pad.

You should have access to the valve through the removeable plate on the floor in front of the livewell.

Edited by Shep 6/12/2014 8:48 AM
Pointerpride102
Posted 6/12/2014 12:04 PM (#715230 - in reply to #715170)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue





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Location: The desert
That's what I thought, Shep. I'm guessing its clogged. Probably with zebra mussels!
sworrall
Posted 6/12/2014 12:50 PM (#715238 - in reply to #715170)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
That's it, alright!
btfish
Posted 6/12/2014 1:21 PM (#715241 - in reply to #715238)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue




Posts: 410


Location: With my son on the water
I can't get mine to stay dry. I never use my livewell so I would prefer to store stuff in it. But no matter what I do water is always getting in.

Does anyone have a suggestion?

Thanks
Lunker Larry
Posted 6/12/2014 6:58 PM (#715311 - in reply to #715241)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue




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btfish
I don't know anything about Tuffy boats but if the overflow drains out the sides of the boat like my lund, I took a rubber carboy cork (the ones used in the big carboys when making wine), drilled a hole in it and inserted a bolt and nut. Stuck it in the drain hole on the side of the boat and tightened it up. This compresses the cork and holds it in the drain hole and is easy to remove if need be. Keeps the water from splashing into the livewell. Put a plug in the drain on the bottom and you have dry storage.
One thing to watch out for, with my Lund anyway, is because of the style of the lip on the livewell (only) water gets in in heavy rain.

Hope this gives you an idea anyway if not a solution.
Propster
Posted 6/12/2014 7:52 PM (#715320 - in reply to #715170)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue




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Location: MN
btfish, plug the overflow as the gentleman above suggests, but also plug the ones inside the LW, including the intake (from the pump) up high and the drain hole down low, and the outer one on the transom (just to the side of the main drain hole). Not sure a Tuffy is laid out the same as mine but it sounds like it is. Then you'll have guaranteed dry storage. And if you buy the right size rubber "corks", where one side is smaller than the hole and the other end is bigger, you won't need to modify them, just use as is. They won't go anywhere.

Pointer, I know I've got a minnow or three that got down my drain and is plugging up my line, so I'll have to get under my floor like you and pull the line off the pump and flush em through. I'm plugging mine up for the summer now that muskie fishing is in full force (and the walleyes get a break) but don't want them stinking up the joint!

Edited by Propster 6/12/2014 7:54 PM
Pointerpride102
Posted 6/12/2014 8:44 PM (#715338 - in reply to #715320)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue





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Location: The desert
Took a peak at it today and believe it to be the cable running from the auto/empty/recirc switch. When I move the switch, the cable doesn't move the valve thingy (technical term). But when I moved the valve thingy the remaining water in there came pouring out the bottom.

When feeling under the gunwale I can feel the cable moving while turning the switch, but it doesn't move the valve thingy. It also seems like there is a nut hanging on the cable that likely should be tightened onto something.

Does that sound like a reasonable diagnosis or am I full of it, like usual?
Propster
Posted 6/12/2014 11:11 PM (#715365 - in reply to #715170)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue




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Location: MN
Your completely scientific engineer-speak sounds reasonable. The cable may have disengaged from the valve
sworrall
Posted 6/13/2014 12:38 AM (#715371 - in reply to #715170)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Livewells are not designed to be dry storage, and should never be used as dry storage unless ALL plumbing is removed and plugged permanently.
Lunker Larry
Posted 6/13/2014 7:59 AM (#715394 - in reply to #715371)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue




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Forgot one thing in my above post. Remove the fuse or replace with a burnt one to prevent accidently turning it on.
Riverrat351
Posted 6/13/2014 9:27 AM (#715422 - in reply to #715394)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue




Posts: 279


Location: Central Wisconsin
I use my livewell as dry storage most of the year, never had a problem. I have an Esox Ltd. and I just put the drainplug in and there is a shut off valve for the water supply that I turn off, works great!
curleytail
Posted 6/13/2014 11:08 AM (#715453 - in reply to #715371)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue




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Location: Hayward, WI
sworrall - 6/13/2014 12:38 AM

Livewells are not designed to be dry storage, and should never be used as dry storage unless ALL plumbing is removed and plugged permanently.


Just curious - why is that? Why would the plumbing need to be removed rather than just plugged?
sworrall
Posted 6/13/2014 12:29 PM (#715467 - in reply to #715453)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Plugs fall out or are not the right diameter and leak. On the Tuffy there is an EZ pump installed as well forcing fresh water into the system when the boat is under power.

No way I recommend using a box with three water access points; 2 exerting head pressure, as 'dry' storage. People are people and eventually someone will get a camera wet and want it replaced and threaten to sue me. Been there and not just once.
danmuskyman
Posted 6/13/2014 7:37 PM (#715530 - in reply to #715170)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue




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Location: Madison, WI
I've had my live well plugged as well as the overflow and my valve on recirc all season on my 1760, and at the end of the day there is always about a half inch of water in there. My two friends with Tuffys have the same deal. I def wouldn't recommend using it for "dry" storage. And for that matter with hard enough rain, all the real dry storage becomes "damp" storage. I've been keeping my bump board in mine, just have to remember to dry it off to prevent mold.
sworrall
Posted 6/13/2014 9:38 PM (#715549 - in reply to #715170)
Subject: Re: Tuffy livewell issue





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Only way to make sure is to plug everything and take off the EZ Pump.
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