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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Sooo, the lake had two events going on, so you will never go back...makes all kinds of sense. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | sworrall - 9/3/2013 3:10 PM
Sooo, the lake had two events going on, so you will never go back...makes all kinds of sense.
What doesn't make sense to you? Its not worth a 10 hour drive to go fish a lake that gets pounded to death and has been for almost 15 years.
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| Once could say the same thing about Eagle. 65,000 acres and you still run into people fishing everywhere. I lost count of how many times we've gone to fish a spot, seen a boat on it, left, come back later, seen another boat on it... We've also caught quite a few after the third run at a spot in a day, and you can pretty much bet that we weren't the first boat to fish it that day.
All the MN guys like to bash WI, but that's what MN is going to look like when all the newer fisheries mature and the biomass balances out to what the lakes can actually support.
I'm sure pressure has something to do with it, but when you start stocking muskies in whatever lake, those first few year classes grow up with no competition for forage or habitat. They basically own the lake. Fast forward 10-15 years, and you have 15 years of muskies of all different sizes out there all competing with each other for everything in the food chain.
To what degree fish become conditioned to seeing lures, who knows? I suspect that lures going by do just become part of their environment after a while, and their response to them might not be what it once was.
But that's just musky fishing, everywhere else except a new fishery...
Catch and release, higher size limits... Not like the fish have gone anywhere. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Musky Brian - 9/3/2013 4:32 PM
sworrall - 9/3/2013 3:10 PM
Sooo, the lake had two events going on, so you will never go back...makes all kinds of sense.
What doesn't make sense to you? Its not worth a 10 hour drive to go fish a lake that gets pounded to death and has been for almost 15 years.
That's not what you said.
I just was up there, and didn't have to share a spot once. Of course, I didn't hit the 'community spots', but that's me. There's not much for muskie water IN Minnesota that isn't 'getting pounded', which was my point, added to the idea that it's a litte bit of a stretch to beat up on a lake one would never return because of two events on the lake at one time....10 years ago.
Did you read Dave's post above? Sounds like a good trip.
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | Everyone has a lake that defeats them, I spent 5 week long trips in 5 years on V yo finaly get one to stay on the hooks and in the net... On the other hand Tonka in August a few years ago first time there took me 20 minutes and get one on each trip there each year... |
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| Moon and the Figure 8. I fish the pressured water of pressured waters and those two 'factors' trump pressure every day. Especially the Figure 8. |
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| Moltisanti - 9/3/2013 10:00 AM
Chip Flowage. I'm convinced there are no actual muskies in it.
Glad it is not just me. I have been up there twice for a week at a time and have yet to get the first follow. I hired good guides on the first day of both trips.
I wish I could catch them there because other than the fishing, I love the lake. |
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| Haven't fished Big V, but Mille Lacs has been tough for me as well. As tough as it seems, Big McKenzie in WI is by far the most frustrating. I keep going back for the hopes of a giant but man I hate that lake. |
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| What are the expectations clients have when they pay $350 bucks to go muskie fishing on tough lakes like vermilion? If the fishing is tough then its tough....is the guide honest with the client and say its going to be a tough day but here are some locations to work later in the week, etc.?
Edited by ckhawkeye51 9/3/2013 10:23 PM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | What?
They are probably aware the lake holds some very impressive numbers of very large muskies, and would like to catch one of those mid-50's tanks.
Like these.
It's big, too, and features some interesting patterns and intriguing structural elements; it's a really good ldea to hire a guide up there to shorten the curve just a little.
Same with Mille Lacs. When the action on both Mille Lacs and Vermilion was absolutely unreal (new reservoir syndrome) near everyone was insisting it would last forever, go back and look. Now plenty of folks want it to be like it was, and cry 'WASTELAND!' if they can't get a 50 every trip.
Now St Clair is the new Mecca as the prarie lakes in MN and lakes . It's larger by a long shot, and the size structure might have actually been helped (it seems) by VHS. How long before folks are decrying it as a 'tough lake'?
Then the guys who know Vermilion go out and go 6 for 12.
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