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rosem027
Posted 8/3/2013 9:34 PM (#655343)
Subject: Top water hook set





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This question has been on my mind for the last couple weeks after missing a few fish on top raiders. A few years ago before I got into muskies I read an article somewhere on top water for pike and musky. The author believed unlike top water for bass where you should wait to feel the fish to set the hook for muskies you should set the hook immediately after seeing or hearing the fish hit. The reasoning behind this is that musky are able to distinguish that the bait is a bait in fact and not actual food and can drop the bait before you feel it.
What are some of your opinions set it right away or wait to feel the fish?
Thanks and good luck out there
sworrall
Posted 8/3/2013 9:38 PM (#655345 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
My experience has been wait until you feel the fish. Video of what happens if you don't to follow in a few minutes...
esox1980
Posted 8/3/2013 9:44 PM (#655347 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Posts: 265


Location: Manitowish Waters WI
Wait!!! If you don't feel them they defiantly don't have hooks.

Edited by esox1980 8/3/2013 9:45 PM
muskyhunter47
Posted 8/3/2013 9:46 PM (#655349 - in reply to #655345)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
I will look away after the cast I hear the bait coming when it get close ill look just so I can see the follow I have missed fish when I watch. I will wait till I feel the fish works the best for me
sworrall
Posted 8/3/2013 10:13 PM (#655353 - in reply to #655349)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Ooops. From last night.

VIDEO
miket55
Posted 8/3/2013 10:56 PM (#655358 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




Posts: 1252


Location: E. Tenn
Most definitely wait until you feel the fish.. Throwing topwaters one night had one blowup with a big ol' "BAWOOSH" four times before it loaded up.. Good thing it was pitch dark out!!
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 8/4/2013 12:40 AM (#655377 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





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Bummer Steve, but did you ever find out when Shelly talked to Cole and Katey?
sworrall
Posted 8/4/2013 10:17 AM (#655422 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Yep, did. Should have been paying more attention....
Steve S
Posted 8/4/2013 12:07 PM (#655432 - in reply to #655422)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




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I agree with everyone you have to feel the fish. It's one of those you want to see it and you don't want to see it!!
black_dawg
Posted 8/4/2013 12:53 PM (#655440 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





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Location: Green Bay, Titletown, WI
Super sharp hooks, and just keep reeling at the same pace, works for me.
Landry
Posted 8/4/2013 10:05 PM (#655493 - in reply to #655343)
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That was funny
Junkman
Posted 8/5/2013 7:28 AM (#655511 - in reply to #655493)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




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I'm not a real top-water expert, so I use the tried and true method....don't watch! Sure, it's exciting and enjoyable to see it all go down, but if you are not above a little "buck fever," just look at the trees and when the fish is there, IT'S THERE!
curleytail
Posted 8/5/2013 7:58 AM (#655515 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
I watch the bait come in. Have caught plenty by speeding up the retrieve when they wake up on it. I wouldn't want to miss any of that.

Anyway: feel the weight, set to the side. Net fish!
fish4musky1
Posted 8/5/2013 7:59 AM (#655516 - in reply to #655515)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Location: Northern Wisconsin
curleytail - 8/5/2013 7:58 AM

I watch the bait come in. Have caught plenty by speeding up the retrieve when they wake up on it. I wouldn't want to miss any of that.

Anyway: feel the weight, set to the side. Net fish!


Agreed, topwater strikes are one of the best parts of muskie fishing. Just wait til you feel the fish and set the hook.
curleytail
Posted 8/5/2013 8:04 AM (#655517 - in reply to #655353)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




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Location: Hayward, WI
sworrall - 8/3/2013 10:13 PM

Ooops. From last night.

VIDEO


See what happens when you don't watch the bait! They are good at hitting the moment you are distracted. It's hard for me to not do the 1/2 set when I hear the splash, just like in the video if they catch me off guard.
BigC
Posted 8/5/2013 10:11 AM (#655536 - in reply to #655440)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Location: On the O
black_dawg - 8/4/2013 1:53 PM
Super sharp hooks, and just keep reeling at the same pace, works for me.


Me too!
Propster
Posted 8/5/2013 11:15 AM (#655553 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




Posts: 1901


Location: MN
A couple good examples are on the DVD Livin Lac Seul, with Linda Rice catching a couple on Topraiders. The fish hits and sometimes there's a splash and commotion, her rod loads up and she just kind of takes a half step back or so and the fight is on. There is no definite hook set, and it looks like she's caught off guard and almost like she doesn't know what she's doing but it's actually just about perfect, other than as suggested above I'd go to the side with the rod rather than upward.
Shep
Posted 8/5/2013 4:24 PM (#655605 - in reply to #655553)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





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I Love fishing topwaters. I love it when fish follow and then hit the bait. I hate it when I'm quicker than the fish!

I look away quite abit when fishing topwaters. I just can't help setting the hook when I'm seeing the fish open it's mouth. Hookups are a much higher percentage when not "paying" attention. 

 

esoxaddict
Posted 8/5/2013 6:02 PM (#655619 - in reply to #655353)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





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sworrall - 8/3/2013 10:13 PM

Ooops. From last night.

VIDEO


Nice! I never do that.



Edited by esoxaddict 8/5/2013 6:12 PM
ski junkie
Posted 8/5/2013 6:22 PM (#655625 - in reply to #655377)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





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Location: Grantsburg, Wisc
ARmuskyaddict - 8/4/2013 12:40 AM

Bummer Steve, but did you ever find out when Shelly talked to Cole and Katey?



Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha
fishfirst92
Posted 8/5/2013 6:24 PM (#655626 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Posts: 661


Location: Sussex, NJ
Wait to feel the weight.....seems to be a pattern developing....wait and weight..hmmm lol

Once you feel it send it home! You don't wanna jump the gun

sworrall
Posted 8/5/2013 6:57 PM (#655630 - in reply to #655625)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
ski junkie - 8/5/2013 6:22 PM

ARmuskyaddict - 8/4/2013 12:40 AM

Bummer Steve, but did you ever find out when Shelly talked to Cole and Katey?



Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha


Actually, that isn't a funny subject. Not real funny, anyhow.

Well, maybe a little.
jano
Posted 8/6/2013 12:51 PM (#655767 - in reply to #655353)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




sworrall - 8/3/2013 10:13 PM

Ooops. From last night.

VIDEO



do you have ever caught some fish minutes after they get almost hooked and have feel the hooks?
Propster
Posted 8/6/2013 1:16 PM (#655774 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




Posts: 1901


Location: MN
Felt hooks, yes. But hooked up for more than a second or two, pretty rare to have them eat again right away
Nershi
Posted 8/6/2013 1:52 PM (#655779 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set




Location: MN
Yes wait. Much easier said than done though. If it makes you feel better I have missed several with the pre-mature hookset even when I know I need to wait. Top waters are a blast.
sworrall
Posted 8/6/2013 1:59 PM (#655781 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
jano,
What Propster said.
esoxaddict
Posted 8/6/2013 2:30 PM (#655783 - in reply to #655781)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





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In my experience, once you actually have the fish on (even if it's just for a second) that fish is gone. If they don't touch the lure they'll blow up on it again and again. My theory is that they are trying to scare the sh-t out of it before they eat it. Tastes better that way!
BNelson
Posted 8/6/2013 4:09 PM (#655809 - in reply to #655343)
Subject: Re: Top water hook set





Location: Contrarian Island
i actually think a superman hookset even when you do 'think' you feel the fish will make you miss more than you catch. a simple steady sweep of the rod, fairly slow, and just keep reeling is better imo than superman stuff.... Lee Tauchen taught me to simply keep reeling when one hits, when you do feel it pivot body to left or right and sweep nice and steady....biggest thing of course is not doing anything when you see or hear it....

Edited by BNelson 8/6/2013 4:12 PM
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