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Location: Lake St. Clair | I am heading down to cave run this weekend and it looks like there may be a little bit of a cold front compared to the weather they have had lately. I know cold front conditions can be tough but is this enough of a cold front to shut the fish down? |
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Location: Lake St. Clair | Better yet, what have been some cold front tactics that have worked on other waters? For me in the past it has been working baits slower and sticking with smaller profile baits. |
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| Not all systems turn tough during a cold front. I fish the ones that I know are actually better when fronts move through.
When forced onto something where it can be tough I ask myself if a feeding response or a reaction response is the best approach. I won't hesitate to throw obnoxious surface baits or anything else that annoys them into a reaction strike if the conditions call for it.
Regardless of conditions any style of bait remains an option. No need to limit yourself by being convinced that only certain types work under certain conditions. |
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Location: Kingston, Ontario | Deeper and slower are general guidelines for post cold front. |
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Location: Lake St. Clair | Good info guys. "Figuring it out" is what drives us crazy yet keeps us coming back! |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Musky Mod if your such a legend (in your own mind ) tell us who you really are
Edited by horsehunter 4/16/2013 6:59 PM
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| Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! |
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| FYI, there is a high paying local bass tournament there this weeked. Over 100 boats expected. They are supposed to launch out of claylick, but I don't think they have the parking there to handle the load. They may move it to alfrey. You may want to launch out of longbow. Two weeks ago warix, zilpo flats, and leatherwood ramps were not functional. |
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Location: Lake St. Clair | Thanks for the heads up. I know we are a week perform the PMTT but wasn't aware of anything else going on. Shouldn't be a no deal to use a different ramp. Last spring i we launched at scotts creek, is that ramp in hood shape? Where is the most convenient place to get a ramp pass?
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| The pro shop across the st from scotts should open early. Crashs landing's hrs are not consistent. Scotts is operational. |
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Location: Lake St. Clair | Sounds great. We are arriving friday afternoon so I think the shop will be open. They are great folks in there. We stayed at their motel last spring. Looking forward to some cooler temperatures to hopefully get the fish moving. I know this week has been really hot so maybe a cool down will be just what they need! Thanks for the info! |
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Location: In the Weeds | A lake I fish gets pretty good during cold fronts. In the spring of the year when it gets cold you can't make 20 casts without getting a strike. I have had best looking using single bladed buck tails going moderate speed. Good Luck |
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| Consigliere - 4/16/2013 5:04 PM
Deeper and slower are general guidelines for post cold front.
Who sets these guidelines? Do the fish get together in an advisory board setting and decide this?
If that is YOUR general guideline and gives you confidence then cool. On certain bodies of water I agree, going slow and deep do create a stronger sense of confidence. On others I strongly disagree. Deeper and slower instills zero confidence and instead I'll go with a buzzbait, creeper, prop type surface bait and speed them up right to the edge of blowing out.
I simply feel that in situations where people are led to believe one specific tactic is the only way to go they could be missing out by not thinking outside of the box. The key to a heck of a pattern could be right under their noses but when the refusal to experiment with something that we are told "shouldn't" work it quickly evolves into excuses being made that the weather was not right. |
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Location: Cave Run, KY | I'm not sure if the front will make a difference right now on the Cave. Its my opinion that the warm weather has already affected the fish and they are already in a little funk due to the accelerated spawn ritual they go thru. If you have a guide booked dont worry, they are dialed into what is going on. If not bring some bass baits too. BTW, the bass tournament will be Saturday and twenty boats qualify for Sunday. I'll be in that mess, Good luck and as always have fun. |
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Location: Lake St. Clair | PGreg, thanks for the info. I dont really have any interest in bass fishing to be honest. We will be throwing everything in the box to try and figure the fish out. Thats part of the fun, the mental game! Last spring we fished down there with Charlie, who guides for Tony and didnt have much luck. We threw everything we had at them, but thats the way it goes. Raised a few fish and only caught one little one. It is a great lake to fish and so much different from our home water of LSC. Looking forward to a good trip either way! If you see the black and gunmetal tuffy out there throw a few waves our way! haha. Good luck out there! |
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| I consider myself to be an excellent cold water muskie angler. Rattletraps are by far one of the best cold front tactics to present to shallow water muskies one can think of. Focus your fishing efforts casting shorelines while moving slowly along them at a moderate speed with your trolling motor.
Your trolling motor is one of the most important piece of electronics you should really take advantage of. Based on my catch records I have noticed my catch rate go up since I began using a foot control trolling motor that I had mounted on the front of my boat. |
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Location: Kingston, Ontario | ulbian - 4/17/2013 8:10 AM
Consigliere - 4/16/2013 5:04 PM
Deeper and slower are general guidelines for post cold front.
Who sets these guidelines? Do the fish get together in an advisory board setting and decide this?
If that is YOUR general guideline and gives you confidence then cool. On certain bodies of water I agree, going slow and deep do create a stronger sense of confidence. On others I strongly disagree. Deeper and slower instills zero confidence and instead I'll go with a buzzbait, creeper, prop type surface bait and speed them up right to the edge of blowing out.
I simply feel that in situations where people are led to believe one specific tactic is the only way to go they could be missing out by not thinking outside of the box. The key to a heck of a pattern could be right under their noses but when the refusal to experiment with something that we are told "shouldn't" work it quickly evolves into excuses being made that the weather was not right.
Didn't say not to work shallow or fast, but generally after a cold front the majority of fish will push deeper because of unstable water conditions and high light (blue birds after the front). Always fish shallow, deep and in between, but after the front if you haven't been successful be ready to push deeper and work slower presentations. You should always still work the shallows and faster speeds because you can't tell the fish what they want, they will tell you. |
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