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jboutdoorguy
Posted 1/25/2013 4:31 PM (#612474)
Subject: Through wire question


Hi all,
I am new on here and would like to compliment all of you on your awesome creations and your willingness to help everybody out.
I am currently making a top water prop bait that I would like to run a through wire through. I do no know what do do at this point as I have a long 1/16" drill but I know once I start drilling with that tiny bit it will walk off center with depth. Do you guys drill a larger hole with a stiffer bit to get it straight then insert a small steel tube or something to act as a bushing? I appreciate any help I can get here. Thanks
spoonpluggergino
Posted 1/25/2013 7:46 PM (#612492 - in reply to #612474)
Subject: RE: Through wire question





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Location: Glen Ellyn Il
Hey jboutdoorguy
I have a thread in detail to another way to do it with pic.. Here is the title
An alternative to wire through construction. I do all my baits this way. If you need further assistance PM me
Hope it helps
Gino
Jerry Newman
Posted 1/25/2013 8:57 PM (#612499 - in reply to #612474)
Subject: RE: Through wire question




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jboutdoorguy - 1/25/2013 4:31 PM Hi all, I am new on here and would like to compliment all of you on your awesome creations and your willingness to help everybody out. I am currently making a top water prop bait that I would like to run a through wire through. I do no know what do do at this point as I have a long 1/16" drill but I know once I start drilling with that tiny bit it will walk off center with depth. Do you guys drill a larger hole with a stiffer bit to get it straight then insert a small steel tube or something to act as a bushing? I appreciate any help I can get here. Thanks

Hi JB,

Your timing is impeccable because I'm right in the middle of rewiring some of my baits and have a few extra mins. I don't use a bushing on the front half (tail yes) I drill a hole to accommodate a swivel to remove the alignment problem. Obviouly you are now drilling from each end to the swivel hole location rather than completely through the bait.  don't get too hung up onkeeping the hole the diameter of the wire either, it's nothing a little bit of epoxy won't take care of... I like too countersink the front wraps into the nose of the bait too.

With these brand new ;) converted Tally Wackers I don't use a heavy BB swivel because of the extra weight factor. Good luck! 

 




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spoonpluggergino
Posted 1/25/2013 9:10 PM (#612501 - in reply to #612474)
Subject: Re: Through wire question





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Location: Glen Ellyn Il
He JB
Gino Again , sorry I did not realize you are buillding a topwater bait. There is a threat on this site how to drill a hole in a globe. The gentileman describes how to modify a drill bit so it will not walk. Do a search on this forum the title is Globe (thru wire) dated 2/14/2011
Gino
Jerry Newman
Posted 1/28/2013 1:13 PM (#612982 - in reply to #612501)
Subject: Re: Through wire question




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spoonpluggergino - 1/25/2013 9:10 PM He JB Gino Again , sorry I did not realize you are buillding a topwater bait. There is a thread on this site how to drill a hole in a globe. The gentileman describes how to modify a drill bit so it will not walk. Do a search on this forum the title is Globe (thru wire) dated 2/14/2011 Gino

Gino,

Although the guy in that thread obviously knows what he's talking about, and maybe for someone who typically makes 100's of baits a year it might be worth it. However, for someone who's just making/modifing a few baits it seems like massive overkill... would be less hassle to just buy them finished from a place like AHL.

On longer baits like most Globes, you're obviously going to need a long enough drill bit to make it to the second swivel/hook location, those can be purchased individually in about any length you need. I'd guess that most guys on here don't have the time or expertise to make their own non-wandering drill bit though.

I've easily modified over 100 baits from original screw eye to wire and have never failed to be able to get the wire threw the bait by just "eyeball" drilling to where the swivel/hook will be. On those tail baits in the above picture I was just changing out the wire because after multiple fish it gets bend up and untrustworthy.

BTW, for you guys who use needle nose pliers to get the wrapped up weeds out from between the front and rear section of your tail prop baits...  I leave enough of a gap in between the sections so I can get my fingers between, the fish don't care and it sure saves a lot of hassle.

Cheers

 

spoonpluggergino
Posted 1/28/2013 3:02 PM (#613014 - in reply to #612474)
Subject: Re: Through wire question





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Location: Glen Ellyn Il
Hey Jerry
Thank You for your reply. I myself love topwater especially Globes. I build baits just for a hubby and I love it. I have attempted to make one of these long bits using a 12 inches by 1/8 bit from HD with some success but not entirely to my satsfaction. I used a dremel tool to cut the V shape in the bit. I also made a Jig to hold my battery dril kind of like a drill press sitting horizantal that part works good. I do not know if they make such a bit but I am going to try again this time I am going to follow the instruction that was posted on here. Some day I want to try to make a globe like Frenchy La May he had one of the best. Any one has some idea on the drill bit please chime in
Thank you
Gino
Jerry Newman
Posted 1/28/2013 7:31 PM (#613087 - in reply to #613014)
Subject: Re: Through wire question




Location: 31

spoonpluggergino - 1/28/2013 3:02 PM Hey Jerry Thank You for your reply. I myself love topwater especially Globes. I build baits just for a hubby and I love it. I have attempted to make one of these long bits using a 12 inches by 1/8 bit from HD with some success but not entirely to my satsfaction. I used a dremel tool to cut the V shape in the bit. I also made a Jig to hold my battery dril kind of like a drill press sitting horizantal that part works good. I do not know if they make such a bit but I am going to try again this time I am going to follow the instruction that was posted on here. Some day I want to try to make a globe like Frenchy La May he had one of the best. Any one has some idea on the drill bit please chime in Thank you Gino

Gino, no problem but I think we are at two ends of the spectrum here because I only build/modify baits to help improve on catching fish. I'm not into color (although I marvel at some of the artwork that is displayed here) and just try to build things that are as bulletproof as possible. Through the years I found that plain paint, hook rash/teeth marks don't seem to matter too these fish and unless it's detrimental to the performance of the bait... I actually prefer it.

With that said, I don't see how ANYONE could start a drill bit at one and and hope to always come out perfectly centered at the other end without some type of laser guidance. It would seem that most of us basement bait guys would almost have to at least put a starter hole in the center of the opposite end anyway.

Good luck on your "Frenchy", and I hope you catch a giant fish on it too!   

 

 

 

 

Musky Glenn
Posted 1/30/2013 7:08 PM (#613629 - in reply to #612474)
Subject: RE: Through wire question


This might help. Start with the square stock and drill the hole, then use these holes to center on the lathe. They will automatically be centered. Musky Glenn
esox911
Posted 1/30/2013 8:21 PM (#613659 - in reply to #613629)
Subject: RE: Through wire question




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MUSKY GLENN has the right IDEA----this is how I have done it and it works fine.
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