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| "Larry you mentioned that Bernard LeBeau measured the fish at 54" after thawed....why didn't he bring that discrepancy to the attention of the ROM and the OFAH? He must have known the fish was considered the [pending??] Canadian record. Didn't he know that Dr. Casselman signed off on the fish on the record application as being 58"?"
Mr. Ramsell, can you please provide some kind of prove or details on why you think Dr. Casselman would do this. thanks |
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| Look at the photo of the cast of O'Brien's fish in the O'Brien report and you'll notice the head length is 14.5" according to the tape.
14.5" = 36.83 centimeters
John Casselman sent me the equation below:
Equation for muskellunge total body length in centimeters to head length in centimeters as determined from specimens entered in Molson's Big Fish Contest (Casselman, unpublished data).
TL (cm) = 1.51 + 3.97 head length (cm)
36.83 cm x 3.97 + 1.51 = 147.725 cm
36.83 cm = 14.5" and 147.725 cm = 58.16"
O'Brien's fish won the Molson Big Fish Contest and would have been used by John Casselman in developing this equation. So the length of O'Brien's fish was 58" according to John Casselman and a 58" muskie would have a head length of 14.5".
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Guest 1: As I just responded on the other thread, Bernard Lebeau had no clue what the fish had been "claimed" to be, was deeply engrossed in working on his Doctoral Thesis and merely stopped by the ROM to count the eggs (which pertained to his Thesis work) and while there measured the length of the fish. We just learned of this measurment by him recently. Therefore he had no reason or option of telling anyone of what later turned out to be a discrepancy.
Dr. Casselman did NOT sign off on the fish on the record application as being 58". However, Dr. CROSSMAN signed the affidavit identifying the species ONLY and nothing else!
Let's keep our facts straight gentlemen. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Guest 2 (George...again), you are stating and using "facts not in evidence" and therefore cannot be discussed.
Having said that, "your" information above is in direct conflict with Dr. Casselman's Cleithrum Project data noted in the other thread.
The length of the fish has unequivocially been determined by at least five or six different facts and no one has yet been able to sufficently explain a 9 pound weight loss in 8 days, especially considering that the Michigan 58 pounder was recently found to have lost virtually no weight after 54 days in a freezer!
END OF STORY GENTLEMEN, O'BRIEN'S FISH IS "OUT"!! |
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