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Message Subject: Do you believe in UV baits?
Wood_Duck
Posted 11/2/2012 10:54 PM (#595726)
Subject: Do you believe in UV baits?





Posts: 555


Location: Tennessee
just curious, I've been arguing with my buddy about the usefulness of UV baits. I'm of the notion that in stained water it could provide a benefit where as he thinks it's all abunch of crap. Sort of like him criticizing my custom painted lures. I just ordered one of the new UV Bulldawgs and I'm curious what you think?
Zib
Posted 11/2/2012 10:57 PM (#595728 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: RE: Do you believe in UV baits?





Posts: 1405


Location: Detroit River
Just another sales gimmick IMO. I've used UV painted jigs & plastics for walleye & couldn't tell a difference.
Tackle Industries
Posted 11/3/2012 8:02 AM (#595752 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?





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Location: Land of the Musky
From a scientific point of view...yes and no. lol I do think in a clear lake the UV baits will be seen better from the sides and above but from below its still the profile that counts. In darker, stained, muddy lakes it makes little difference IMO. The vibration a bait throws off is far more important vs UV IMO. The proof is in the "boating" though. It would be interesting to see the numbers of identical lures with and without UV to see if their is a statistical difference. With that said, you already have a LOT of UV baits in your box but just did't know it. About 2/3 of the lures I make have one or more UV emitting colors used and so do every other bait manufacturer out there. You have already been using them I found it very interesting to test my lures though. Some of the colors I really thought would go UV nuts had no UV reflectance and some that I thought would not do much went nuts. JMO
James
JKahler
Posted 11/3/2012 9:05 AM (#595762 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?




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Location: WI
Not a believer that it makes any difference.
5th lake Brad
Posted 11/3/2012 11:14 AM (#595773 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?





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Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI
Not a believer either, BUT, on several occasions this fall the UV dawg got hit in a boat of three mag dawgs being thrown. All while camping on spots. Coincidence I'm sure, but a few more times and I may begin to change my mind.
sworrall
Posted 11/3/2012 2:56 PM (#595807 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
A pretty smart guy I know identified a structure in the Muskie's eyes that leads him to believe they can see in the UV spectrum. Ask any serious deer hunter what that means.
I'm going with his interpretation, which means they can see the UV enhanced bait, and in certain conditions, that could be a winner for the day.
Guest
Posted 11/3/2012 6:09 PM (#595825 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: RE: Do you believe in UV baits?


I fished a clear lake all the time this past summer with the UV black and white TI dawg and it seamed to get hit about three times as often as dawgs without the UV so i think it makes a difference in clear water, especially working it deeper.
Guest
Posted 11/3/2012 7:20 PM (#595836 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: RE: Do you believe in UV baits?


u fished a black vs a white and u blame it on it being uv in deep water....riiight

im just saying .... very scientific.
Bjayz12
Posted 11/3/2012 8:06 PM (#595843 - in reply to #595836)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?




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does the fact that they can see it better really answer the question... they may be able to see it better, but what was the last thing that was glowing that that muskie had eaten? probably nothing
Guest
Posted 11/3/2012 9:17 PM (#595853 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: RE: Do you believe in UV baits?


no not black vs white, one lure with black and white. The top part of the body is black with the bottom and tail being the white color that had the UV glow.
Guest
Posted 11/3/2012 9:19 PM (#595854 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: RE: Do you believe in UV baits?


Bjayz12, true but how many lures and colors are there out there that look nothing like anything a muskie has eatin that work. maybe they just attack it because it peees um off
Bjayz12
Posted 11/3/2012 11:18 PM (#595873 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?




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id say most of the baits give off some type of action that reminds them of a bait fish even though they may not look like anything in the lake, like the vibrations from a blade, or an injured fish motion on a suick, and even tho there may not be any firetiger colored shad out there in the wild, when the water clarity varies it may look more natural to the muskies. The UV color would never look natural to a muskie because its glowing.
sworrall
Posted 11/4/2012 8:38 AM (#595902 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The last thing I want is my lure looking 'natural'. And, your perception of what a UV enhanced lure may look like is off a bit, 'glowing' may not be the right word to descibe the reality underwater. Also, many fish do reflect UV.

Not all fish can see in the UV spectrum.
anzomcik
Posted 11/4/2012 3:14 PM (#595948 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?





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I think it makes a difference. With that said I do not own any UV baits, but I am sure somthing is there
hunter991
Posted 11/5/2012 8:27 AM (#596075 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: Re: Do you believe in UV baits?




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Put the bait where it counts and if the fish is hungry it will eat. I don't care what color it is to be honest, UV or not.
bbeaupre
Posted 11/6/2012 6:52 AM (#596277 - in reply to #595726)
Subject: RE: Do you believe in UV baits?




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From a scientific point of view UV could have a benefit. The UV spectrum is higher energy than visible light, this means that it is more penetrating in water. Just the same as blue is more penetrating than red. Which is why red is refracted out of the water quickly, why cajun red line is not red in deep water, it is also more than likely not invisible either. So that being said there is the ability for UV lure so have visible patterns in deeper water. Also I most point out in dirty water this effect is compounded.
THe main point here is it COULD be more visible under certain conditions. Also UV light has a large range of spectra and exactly what wavelength of light is reflected by UV paint also effects this whole concept.

Sorry that is long and personally I feel the advantages are small
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