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| How many of you saw the BASSMasters Tourney where guys were casting deep diving cranks across vast points and flats that dropped into the main channel of the resevoir and covered 300 yards on one cast? They would make a cast, then leave their reels on free-spool and use their electric motors to move away from the lure into the direction they wanted the lure to run. Once all the line was off of the spool, they would take 15+ minutes to reel the lure in and cover as much of the area they targeted as possible. It worked great and got me thinking, why not do that when using deep-diving cranks for muskies? I can think of lots of long points that I could use it on, and maybe even off of a break running along a weed edge. The only drawback I can think of, is having a big muskie hit 300 yards from the boat.
Anyone else see that tourney and think about adding that technique to their muskie arsenal? I'm going to try it for sure this fall.
How about a 300 yard top-water retrieve in the midst of some jet-skiers?
Beaver
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Location: Eastern Ontario | easier to troll |
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| Interesting but I would just troll as well |
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Location: Kingston, Ontario | Only reason they do this is because they can't troll. |
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| Nothing new about "long lining" in the bass world where trolling is not an option. It's also not an option on most of the musky lakes I fish regularly. If you think about it, a lot of the time you reel like a sunfagun trying to get a crank bait down, and then by the time you get it where you want it...it's under your boat and you are done. Long lining also can give you some of the advantage of trolling where you can't troll because in addition to reaching your desired depth for a longer time, the bait is also in the water longer to turn a follower into an eater. Like so many things that we "steal" from the bass world, I predict that a lot of the better sticks will figure out a way to make this a really effective and deadly pattern in certain targeted opportunities. Marty Forman |
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Location: Smith Creek | I can only fit about 115 yards of line on my reel.
And I'd probably get snagged after about 4 cranks. |
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| I would hate to have to explain to the WI DNR that I was not motor trolling despite the fact that my lure was in the water and the boat was being moved by the motor. |
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| I used to leave my bait in the water when dad would be moving the boat to reposition our drift, or even cast it to get extra distance....and let the spool go. I got a kick out of it but was always told it wasn't a wise choice - even though it could be. But so could short casts...even medium ones  #*^@ lunge! |
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| I saw that tournament.
It probably is illegal here in Wisconsin now.
You might look for a sinking crankbait too.
The deep diving Slammer is also probably worth a shot.
Are the structures you plan to fish similar to the structures those bass guys were on? |
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| I don't see how it can be ilegal, it's just a different way to get more line out since they won't let us troll. What's the reason for that again? I'm not worried about hook-sets, I keep my hook real sharp, all the new super lines don't stretch, and I'm going to use lures like Mike King's 7" Shad. I don't plan on reeling my nutz off, just a nice steady retieve and keep contacting the bottom with intermittent pauses. I imagine tossing out a 2 oz. single spin spinnerbait with a #8 Indiana would be an awesome slow-rolling lure.
I'm going to do it and let you know how it works. |
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Location: Sycamore, IL | I think it's a great idea and should be productive on certain structures. I saw a bass pro type guy doing this and also sticking his rod deep under water to achieve extra depth for his lures. I can think of a couple lakes that this could work very well on!
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Location: SE, WI. | Beav; Did this often years ago in Vilas and Onieda counties where trolling is not legal. One specific lake was Pelican. Mr Worrall's old haunt...:-O Cast a surface bait out, kick up the trolling motor, and drag the surface lure 3 to 4 hundred Feet...Yes, turning the reel handle ( legal). Worked real well on the town bars, especially the ones that have turns. Also your surface bait will track a C shape which is perfect to promote a strike...;) automatically bringing the lure to one side of the fish to see and strike...:o So try it with your Dog Turd!!!
Edited by jdsplasher 8/21/2012 10:20 PM
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| Those guys do it to get their crankbaits deeper.
Trolling covers water fast. Long line casting is SLOW business. Those guys wouldn't be doing it if they didn't think they were contacting a specific spot that held fish but was too deep to get a crankbait down to it on a normal cast. |
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Location: South Bend, Indiana | sounds like a troller got bored |
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Location: South Bend, Indiana | ohh wait, he got "board"..................... ha..... |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | smallmouth/musky - 8/22/2012 8:46 AM
Those guys do it to get their crankbaits deeper.
Trolling covers water fast. Long line casting is SLOW business. Those guys wouldn't be doing it if they didn't think they were contacting a specific spot that held fish but was too deep to get a crankbait down to it on a normal cast.
Trolling also allows you to have max depth control while covering water. Problem with casting is not being able to keep you bait at it's max depth for very long at all as most of the retireve is diving, and then rising.
I could see it's benefits for musky fishing for those that want to run at a depth for as long as they can. I think this is thinking out of the box a bit.
However the diving portion at the beginning of the retrieve, and the rising near the end are great triggers that you will have a lot less of with the tactic mentioned. Pluses and minuses in everything.
Worthy of a try, or two in my opinion. |
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Location: Pulaski, WI | Use two rods, let one free spool while you drift and reel the other. Finish reeling in, cast it out and pick up the other one and start reeling. |
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