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Posted 11/15/2002 12:07 PM (#7746)
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Okay jlong,

Lets get this over with. Spill the beans on this NEW crankbait you developed at your research company. I want a picture, specifications, detailed description of the action, and pricing. I have seen you hinting at it for almost a year. I just saw on hunter that you are now done?

I wont be able to go to the Chicago show so spill!!!

Thanks

Jeff Schoditch

Posted 11/15/2002 3:27 PM (#50725)
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All I gotta say is this: It's one of those crankbaits that I have a hard time putting down...Go figure, I'm a jerkbait fisherman. It's definitley a fish catcher. I'll let Jason fill you with the gory details...it's his baby.

catch ya later,
Krappie

Posted 11/15/2002 8:21 PM (#50726)
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I seen this crankbait in action. All I can say is, I want one! And I will![:p]

Posted 11/16/2002 7:23 AM (#50727)
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I don't know nothing but the grapevine says there has been a 25 pounder caught on one of them.
Boy I wish I knew something.
Sorry about the vine Jason but somebody twisted my little arm. [:halo:] [:halo:] [;)]

Posted 11/16/2002 3:37 PM (#50728)
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Thanks for the interest, I appreciate it.

As much as I'd like to take all the credit... I gotta give credit to the entire ERC gang for making this a success and the pro staff for doing a superior job ensuring the lure catches fish. Sure, I had an idea and even some prototype designs that I had been fishing with for a few years... but the manufacturing expertise of my partners and the unsurpassed experience of Dick Pearson are what finally made this a reality.

Anyway, the lure that people are talking about is called the TripleD. It got its name from Dynamic Deep Diver... a phrase I coined a few years ago to refer to some of my old tinkered up crankbaits. The construction of this lure is unique and will definitely set a new standard for plastic lures. What is cool about this bait is it has split personalities... and I describe it as a "Jerkbait in Disguise". Combining near neutral bouyancy and a little engineering..... the lure can be worked in an erratic fashion with minimal effort. No more double pumping cranks and a sore shoulder at the end of the day![:bigsmile:]

The infamous Stan Durst has already been painting them up in preparation for show season. If you know Stan.... you know that these baits will be "pretty".

Oh yeah... and the grapevine is even more humble than me. The prototypes have been catching fish for quite some time... but the final production pieces have really proven themselves this fall. It only took me 1 hour fishing with the first production piece to pop a 25 pounder. I then gave one to Onieda Esox... and it took him half a day to C&R a 25 pounder too. Then, last weekend MRoberts saved the trip with yet another 25 pounder caught on a TripleD. That's three quality fish from northern WI in a relatively short period of time. The few other people that have fished with them have also caught some nice muskies with them... which is pretty amazing. For some reason, the fish like to eat them. [:halo:] I'll confess, these final production pieces have not produced a 30 pounder yet... but at this pace it is sure to happen.

I apologize for tootin' my horn, but I am VERY proud of this lure and look forward to showing them to you all at the shows this winter. Thanks again for your interest.

jlong

Posted 11/18/2002 6:27 AM (#50729)
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Jlong,

Thanks for the info.

Jeff


Posted 11/18/2002 8:18 AM (#50730)
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What I like about this lure is that it catches fish right out of the package. Although none of mine came from a package[;)]

What I mean is that it has good hooks, split rings, and nothing needs to be done to it in order to catch fish. It is also plastic so all lures should run the same and it is very tough!

It casts like a bullet and figure 8's really well and hooks and holds fish.

One thing I hate in a lure is constant fouling and fish not getting hooked after they eat it, this is not the case with the Triple D.

Put this lure on you Christmas list. God bless.

John

Posted 11/18/2002 8:29 AM (#50731)
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Hey how about you post a pic of what they look like J?

Posted 11/18/2002 11:31 AM (#50732)
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Heh heh. John (Oneida Esox) has his own personal style for "working" crankbaits that is absolutely deadly, so I thought he'd never convert to "my" style. Glad to see 'em crack. Thanks John for the kind words. Oh yeah... while I'm thinking about it... what do you think of that FEDERAL Agency study supporting my Purkinje Perch theory (ha ha)? That study is going to save a lot of goverment employees lives... and help many musky fisherman boat more fish under changing light conditions[:halo:] [:halo:] [:0] If you didn't know... I found lots of great info from the US Military documenting this phenomena. They incorporate this into the design of their fighter plane instrumentation panels for night missions. The Purkinje Shift is no joke.... even though you like to tease me about it (ha ha).

Cory, would posting a picture really help? Would it be "wrong" if I kept it a mystery for just a little longer? heh heh. J/K.. I hope to have some pics soon that I'll consider posting.... but you really need to see this thing in the water to appreciate it.

jlong

Posted 11/18/2002 1:12 PM (#50733)
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jlong:

Have there been any studies on how the Purkinje Shift relates to the rods and cones in a fish eye?

Bob

Posted 11/18/2002 1:45 PM (#50734)
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The Purkinje Shift is simply the transition from predominantly cone vision (color) to rod vision (black and white) as illumination decreases. Rods are most sensitive to the green/yellow wavelength. It has been studied in many fish... unfortunately not much as been done specifically with muskies.

The joke with the Federal Dept. of Transportation is that they plan to spend millions of $$$$ this year to trasition from Blaze Orange vests to Fluorescent Green/Chartruese vests based on a study that shows in low light conditions the orange is not as visible... causing a safety hazard for their employees. If the government can find a use for the Purkinje Shift... so can musky fishermen.

Since we are talking about color... here is a black and white CAD image of the TripleD for those that can't wait for the Chicago Show to see one.

jlong

Posted 11/18/2002 2:44 PM (#50735)
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Does the bait have a metal or lexan lip,also is it made of hollow or solid plastic?

Woody

Posted 11/18/2002 3:44 PM (#50736)
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I as well have had the opportunity to use this awsome lure, and must say it is a great crankbait. The musky world is in for a treat when this lure comes out, and I am really looking forward to using it more next year. This lure will catch a lot of fish, and a lot of BIG fish. Start saving your money now because you'll want to buy more than just a couple of these lures![:sun:]

Posted 11/18/2002 10:28 PM (#50737)
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I was able to whine and cajole a couple off the first production run into my possession to fish and fool around with and of course for "TESTING". I was intrigued when I saw the first picture of these, and from some e mail conversations and board conversations with Jason L. and another fisherman I had a pretty good idea of what they were supposed to do. As soon as I got them I took them to the truck and ran over to the closest pond and started throwing them to see what had been wrought. They wiggled as they dove, hmm, so what, common stuff. I then gave a hard rip. All of a sudden the bait became untracked and ran out to the side by about a yard. COOL! I started to screw around with pace and stop and go, and the bait started doing things. Unnatural things. Death rolls, half gainers, and even BOTTOM FEEDING!

I loved them-but my test issues were just blanks and I had yet to hook them up with hardware. I had some fears that adding hooks was going to dampen the action. Still excited I ran some paint on them and added hooks. These things are balanced and weighted right on the edge, one set of hooks slowly sank the bait, another set gave a slow rise. Both hook sets still had very good action similar to what the bare blanks had done. The condensed version of the rest of the story is that within the span of two trips with bad water conditions and perhaps a total of 3 hours actual casting time, I hooked up with my first Triple D legal. I sincerely believe that with good water conditions I could have cut that time in half.

For me the test of a bait has always been the bite. If it don't get bit it aint worth sh*&! This bait passed the test quickly. A side note on the fish that bit, was that the fish had made a veer on my go-to bait and then passed up the next 8 baits it was shown. Three casts with the Triple D and we were hooked up. What was the action that made the fish goof? Bottom feeding and a run out...the fish never had a chance.

This is an elegant and responsive bait. Get to the pool demonstration or order on faith.
I am guessing that the range of motion on this bait is going to flip you out like it has me.

Jason, if the weather holds and I sneak away I may get in 10 more trips before Christmas. Want to bet on whether I can break 25?
[:bigsmile:]
Oh wait, most of you guys won't get to try this until next spring will ya?
[:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:]

Posted 11/19/2002 7:17 AM (#50738)
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Wow!
Great testimonial FSF.... THANKS!

Once again, the TripleD got bit for a first time user. This is becoming a common theme. One that still blows me away. Hopefully all the compliments we've been getting doesn't create any false expectations. There is no such thing as a magic lure. The TripleD is just another tool like any other bait. It just lets you do some things a little easier than the others and requires no "tinkering" to get it.

jlong

Posted 11/19/2002 7:46 AM (#50739)
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Woody, the bait has a lexan lip and has shined in comparison when tested against some other baits with lexan lips.

It is a solid plastic body.

John

Posted 11/19/2002 2:46 PM (#50740)
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Onieda says that it has a solid plastic body. Does it still have a thru wire.

Jeff

Posted 11/19/2002 2:51 PM (#50741)
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nnn

Posted 11/19/2002 2:57 PM (#50742)
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Jason
Boy,I can't believe how much your bait looks so much like the ones that I sent to you about a year and a half ago and alot of your buddies from ERC bought from me this past year.That's about all I will say about this.I won't sign my last name,cause you know who I am.

Steve

Posted 11/19/2002 3:02 PM (#50743)
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nope

Posted 11/19/2002 3:13 PM (#50744)
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Steve,
Yup... I know who you are. You make a GREAT bait! I've caught many fish on them... and will continue to do so. There are lots of baits out there that have similar profiles, so I can understand your comment. Perhaps my friends have been buying your baits because they seen me catch fish on them and I told them how to get their own? I hope you weren't implying otherwise.

I'll send you a TripleD and you can see for yourself that there are is a difference besides just the construction. The KEEL design is unique for the TripleD.

jlong

Posted 11/19/2002 3:27 PM (#50745)
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Steve and others...


Yes.... The Trip D is a crankbait. We did get inspiration from ALL the crankbaits, that we like, on or OFF the market. Infact we took what we liked from ALL the lures on or off the market and injected it into our design. That is no secret.

We then injected our own thoughts, beliefs and manufacturing capability into the design for a full year. And out popped the Trip D.

I believe that ours is the first crankbait to be solid plastic with a INSERTMOLDED lip that is neutrally buoyant. Also notice the SMALL ANGELED FINS in the back.

It may look like a just another crankbait. Once you give it a rip/pull/jerk/twitch ...you will see the difference..


Matt

Posted 11/21/2002 10:38 AM (#50746)
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Are these new baits going to be at the Milwaukee show too or just Chi-town? I'm looking for a good excuse to go to both shows and spend too much money.[:)]

Posted 11/22/2002 5:29 PM (#50747)
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Today's bite once again came after a pass through with other baits and I did not even want to put the bait on due to the place I was fishing. However it was snowing and my a** was getting cold and I was getting ready to go home pretty soon so I just checked with a few casts. Today's action was tipping, rolling, and what finally overwhelmed the fish, "rock sucking".

Color was once again "Piranha". This bait is the bomb.[;)]
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