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Message Subject: break in the action
Slamr
Posted 7/17/2012 3:25 PM (#572256 - in reply to #572231)
Subject: Re: break in the action





Posts: 7090


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
esoxaddict - 7/17/2012 2:13 PM

Slamr - 7/17/2012 1:12 PM

Flambeauski - 7/17/2012 12:57 PM

Can someone lend Slamr a camera with zoom?


No offense to muskie fisherman and nature viewing on the lake is cool and all but when THIS is right in front of your tourney HQ, you're glad you chose volleyball instead of hockey years and years ago...


But how do you concentrate on the game? I'd be thrown off the team for letting the ball go right by. Again and again and again... ;)


EA,
The team is two people...all of the guys and girls I play with know that "scenery recognition timeouts" do occur from time to time.
vegas492
Posted 7/17/2012 3:36 PM (#572261 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action




Posts: 1039


How many 8's do you have to do before she hits?
ande
Posted 7/17/2012 6:35 PM (#572297 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: RE: break in the action


Scenery aside.............That looks like an amazing place to play sand Volleyball. Maybe I should be worring less about the guys fishing in the heat and try to play even more Vball?
jackson
Posted 7/18/2012 7:24 AM (#572390 - in reply to #572229)
Subject: Re: break in the action




Posts: 582


Propster - 7/17/2012 1:54 PM

"did i say anything to the contrary? Did i once mention i am good to go fishing in these temps? What some of you don't realize is the top 2 feet of water column is not the entire lake. i have successfully released lots of fish in warm water temps. I traditionally don't fish for muskie in warm water, but there are lots of people on my lake doing it and i am not going to yell at them. This is a sport fish, and i care about the quality of this sport as much as the next guy. But some of you are way over the top believing that if a fish dies, the end of the world is coming. Its a fish! and if your that concerned its probably not a good idea to catch a muskie with possibly 3 giant treble hooks yanked thru its mouth and gills and you should stick to bluegill. That being said, i do care enough and am lucky enough to be able to fish for other species until the conditions IMO improve. But thats not the same for everyone else. People who enjoy fishing for them, spent $2000 a week on a cabin etc... its up to all of us to do the right thing as we see it, but its not illegal to fish for muskies when the temp hits 80 degrees so i won't be standing at the boat landing with a sign on or anything condemning anyone else."

Jackson, not sure where this rant came from. I also did not make any accusation toward you or anyone else. If you took this the wrong way, sorry. In case anyone misinterpreted your post as a rational that it was okay to go ahead and fish - I'm not going to do any harm because two feet down it's much cooler - I just wanted to point out what others may not have thought of, and what your post appeared not to address.



no issue, sorry if i mis-read or mis-interpreted.
BNelson
Posted 7/18/2012 7:51 AM (#572394 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action





Location: Contrarian Island
here's one for all the guys who claim it's cooler 5 feet down...a guy went out last nite on a 4k acre lake in MN...dropped a temp gauge to 16 feet and it was still 79 degrees....
Guest
Posted 7/18/2012 9:44 PM (#572578 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: RE: break in the action


I have personally not fished in three weeks I am starting to get depressed. More than anything because I feel like I am trying to do the right thing but according to all of the recent large fish pictures that are being posted by people who i would expect to know better I feel like I'm in the wrong.
sworrall
Posted 7/18/2012 10:02 PM (#572582 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action





Posts: 32930


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Pelican was 76 when we left the water yesterday. 60's and rain most of the day today, and I see that weather went across a pretty good section of MN too.
Guest
Posted 7/18/2012 10:12 PM (#572585 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: RE: break in the action


I am confused I was also on the lake last night, not fishing, and measured surface temps on two separate transducers at 80 plus on several locations as well as 79 degrees over 16 ft down, as Nelson stated earlier.
Top H2O
Posted 7/18/2012 10:46 PM (#572590 - in reply to #572585)
Subject: RE: break in the action




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
A Northern Mn. Lake was 78* air temp. today and down to 51* tonight.

The water temps are at or about 74-76 on the main lake basins (west side)
Forecast is for near 80 -83*( air temps) for the next 7 days with lows in to the Mid to low 50's

I hope to get out tomorrow evening after work.

Edited by Top H2O 7/18/2012 10:48 PM
curleytail
Posted 7/19/2012 6:54 AM (#572620 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
I haven't fished muskies since the 1st weekend of July. Been fishing walleyes and bluegills. Even walleyes and smallmouth on deep, clear, NW WI lakes feel warm to the touch when brought up from 15+ feet deep. Even smaller walleyes that are released are not swimming off quickly. Perch that are hooked deeper and take a few extra seconds to unhook are pretty much going belly up as soon as they are dropped back in the lake.

We finally had a couple days of cooler weather. I don't know if it got much above 70 in Hayward yesterday and we had a fair amount of rain. I might head out today and hope to toss some musky baits, but I'll have the walleye gear along too just in case.

Last saturday I found a 41-42 floating dead on LCO. The 1st weekend in July we saw a few walleyes floating too which is unusual. I've never seen such high water temps so far down in the water column. Fish are stressed...

Tucker
sworrall
Posted 7/19/2012 7:33 AM (#572626 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action





Posts: 32930


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
It's 58 degrees right now here and rained most of the night, a nice cool rain too. That will help.

Some of the lakes will cool very fast, some will take a while, but most here will be in the low to mid 70's today. Forecast is for a low of 54 tonight after a high in the low to mid seventies.

Going to be mid 80's this weekend again though, but at least no middle to upper 90's. Main thing is it is supposed to be cool at night.

Some lakes WILL be cooler 5' down, some will not. Depends on local weather, how much rain has fallen the last few days,etc. Measure YOUR local water temps and act accordingly. For example, we saw rain several times yesterday, a couple storms lasted a couple hours and brought the air temps into the 60's, and two counties down there was nearly none until last night. South of there, it rained all afternoon.
jonnysled
Posted 7/19/2012 7:39 AM (#572628 - in reply to #572626)
Subject: Re: break in the action





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
i traveled around quite a bit this past week was in so. wisconsin, minnesota and n. wisconsin (n. central). the minocqua/eagle river/western up area is nothing like the rest of the midwest. n. central wisconsin is green, cool at night and seems to not have been hit like the surrounding areas. minnesota was ridiculous dry and stifling hot ... a lot like southern wisconsin.

i believe this area gets right fast if not already ... heck i'lll have to be cutting grass again. here it's growing fast ...
Propster
Posted 7/19/2012 7:46 AM (#572630 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action




Posts: 1901


Location: MN
"I have personally not fished in three weeks I am starting to get depressed. More than anything because I feel like I am trying to do the right thing but according to all of the recent large fish pictures that are being posted by people who i would expect to know better I feel like I'm in the wrong."
You're not wrong guest. One definituon of character is how you act when nobody's watching. Most are doing the right thing. I for one appreciate that.
ande
Posted 7/19/2012 8:15 AM (#572634 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: RE: break in the action


After nearly an inch of rain yesterday the water temps still went up yesterday after the sun came out. I spoke with one newer musky fisherman last night. He had 83F surface water temps even after an inch of rain. I also spoke with a diver yesterday and he said this year the water is warm deeper down than most years.

One good thing it that the bite generally slows with the warm water also. Once the water gets cool look out!!

I am very pleasantly surprised that most our giving it a break. Some are icing down there transducer temp guage before fishing I think. ha ha.

Good point Propster.
sworrall
Posted 7/19/2012 8:27 AM (#572635 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action





Posts: 32930


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I haven't seen 83 on any water I have fished yet, but I haven't fished pannies and bass on any smaller or dark water lakes, either. Norm Wild had the same temps on Pelican I saw on the 'Bird on his Lowrance units. Haven't fished muskies on my favorite waters since June, so can it, ande.
ande
Posted 7/19/2012 8:37 AM (#572639 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: RE: break in the action


Sorry Steve, was just joking with the icing down the transducer. Every water is different. I just thought it was odd the water was still 83 with some rain. The lake was shallow and weedy were the report came from though.
madfish
Posted 7/19/2012 10:38 AM (#572673 - in reply to #572394)
Subject: Re: break in the action




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BNelson - 7/18/2012 7:51 AM

here's one for all the guys who claim it's cooler 5 feet down...a guy went out last nite on a 4k acre lake in MN...dropped a temp gauge to 16 feet and it was still 79 degrees....


And to piggy back off what what BNelson said, here in Madison it's still a bathtub and won't be changing any time soon. 10k acre lake that is still 81.3 5 meters down after 1.83 inches of rain overnight...ie 16.4 feet down it is still 81.3. http://metobs.ssec.wisc.edu/buoy/

That will take a solid week of cool cloudy weather and even cooler nights to even think about fishing. Southern and Southeast WI musky lakes won't be safe for quite a while even after it starts to cool down.
sworrall
Posted 7/19/2012 10:57 AM (#572684 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action





Posts: 32930


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Been WAY warmer there than here, and we've had more than normal rainfall unlike the drought conditions in the rest of the state, meaning cooler water from the rain and more cloudy conditions. Point is, don't transfer Madison area conditions automatically here.
madfish
Posted 7/19/2012 11:04 AM (#572686 - in reply to #572684)
Subject: Re: break in the action




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sworrall - 7/19/2012 10:57 AM

Been WAY warmer there than here, and we've had more than normal rainfall unlike the drought conditions in the rest of the state, meaning cooler water from the rain and more cloudy conditions. Point is, don't transfer Madison area conditions automatically here.


I didn't. Did you read my last paragraph...said southern and SE lakes won't be safe for quite some time. Never said ALL of Wisconsin was still hot. I was just making the point that just because it is safe to fish near Wausau, Rhinelander, GB, etc doesn't make it a good idea to start fishing Madison/Milwaukee areas...

I think we are in agreement...
sworrall
Posted 7/19/2012 11:11 AM (#572689 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action





Posts: 32930


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
yep.
ziefisherman
Posted 7/19/2012 12:35 PM (#572713 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action




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This is just my view. Why take a greater chance of release mortality. I use the down time to scout new areas for when the temps cool down.
vegas492
Posted 7/19/2012 1:55 PM (#572723 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action




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I'd like to use my down time to "scout" out areas with Slammer.
sobering fact
Posted 7/23/2012 5:56 PM (#573369 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: RE: break in the action


nahhh it's ok to fish in warm water! they swim away just fine and live! sure they do...read on. Reality check.... BN


DanKlis
Posted 7/23/2012 9:48 AM (#573276 - in reply to #569233)
Subject: RE: LOTW - Sabaskong Bay & Area - July '12



Justin - Thanks fo the reminder on safe handling. My buddy Tom caught a 50 incher on Thursday night in the Angle. The water temp was 81 in the bay. His lure was babrless. It was his first 50 (although he has caught a bunch of 48 to 49 inchers) and really wanted a photo. The fish looked good on the release (I have handled many big fish, and really felt good about the handling and release). The next day we returned to the spot. On the way in there were three bald eagles on shore. The fish was on shore.

My friend was really bummed out, as I was. I am fairly certain that the water temp had to do with the fishes passing.

I am certain in my years of muskie fishing there were others that passed away.

DanKlis
esoxaddict
Posted 7/23/2012 6:40 PM (#573373 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action





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That's a sobering fact all right.

Another sobering fact that is a percentage of fish, estimates as high as one out of ten fish, die as a result of us catching them. And that is in any weather, and any water temperature.

We slam hooks through their faces and drag them back to the boat against their will. Then we net them, rip said hooks out, and basically suffocate them ofr a few minutes while we take pictures of them out of the water to prove how great we are. And do you know what? They swim off scared half to death and exhausted, and some of them DIE. That's right. Dead. Pushing daisies, tits up, expired, pining for the fjiords... All for our enjoyment and to boost our egos about how great we are at catching fish.

We're doing something for fun that people used to do for sustinence. We're doing something for sport that was created and intended to put food on the table. "safe handling" is a good thing to teach people, and a good thing to practice. But let's not put ourselves on too high of horse here, shall we not? If we were all that concerned with the safety of the fish, we'd flat out stop fishing for them.

Just sayin'...
BenR
Posted 7/23/2012 6:41 PM (#573375 - in reply to #571926)
Subject: Re: break in the action


3 regal birds were fed, heck they might have actually killed the fish. A muskie after release is probably an easy target for a Bald Eagle. BR
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