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Posted 11/6/2002 5:15 AM (#5466)
Subject: jackpot versus topraider


when do you use either one of these? Do you prefer ther plastic topraider or a wooden one like a tallywhacker or an awaker?

Posted 11/6/2002 7:03 AM (#49870)
Subject: jackpot versus topraider


Jackpot, hands down. No contest! After throwing both on the waters that I fish, I have had more up and hooked on a Jackpot than Topraider. Just my opinion, but I also believe that the Topraider doesnt have the hooking percentage that the Jackpot does. Now, both topwater baits, or for that matter, a lot of top water baits have a low hooking percentage, due to a variety of things. They both are great baits though, a lot of it depends on how the angler is working them, how aggresive the attitude is of the fish, and lastly water clarity.

My two cents worth, and I am all out of change!

Posted 11/6/2002 7:51 AM (#49871)
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Here's my rule of thumb for each.
Bite type:
Bucktail= topraider
Jerkbait= jackpot

Last year I caught equal numbers of fish on each, but the jackpot had bigger fish by far! Plastic vs. wood doesn't come into play with me. If anything plastic hooks up better and lasts longer.

Posted 11/6/2002 8:33 AM (#49872)
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Jackpot, Jackpot, Jackpot!!!!!!!!!

Posted 11/6/2002 9:59 AM (#49873)
Subject: jackpot versus topraider


thanks for your replies. I'm really interested in hearing more people's opinions like BrianF. When do you chose one over the other. That's actually what I wanted to know. I really like the jackpot and have had strikes on them but not on a topraider-style lure. I think pike like these jackpots better for some reason. But surface fishing for pike isn't very successful here so I want to get the best tool for the job when they seem to be on a topwater bite.

Posted 11/6/2002 1:35 PM (#49874)
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Good point Brian. Looking back I've caught most of my big pike in the fall, shallow, on Jackpots. One thing to remember if your going to run a topraider style is to really slow it down! Almost to the point where the tail doesn't like to turn sometimes. Make sure you put a couple pauses followed by a quick retrieve change-up in there.

Posted 11/6/2002 1:42 PM (#49875)
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Hughes River Top Prey, Top Prey, Top Prey.

Posted 11/6/2002 1:59 PM (#49876)
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I must say the pike that grabbed the jackpot were close to the weeds in clear, cool water in very hot weather. Close to the entrance of bays. I never expected to have strikes from pike on it but they did. I was fishing with a guy that used an awaker and he didn't see a thing. It seems to me that pike over here rather grab a bait that runs an inch below the surface than one that runs on the surface. Still, these two baits run so nice, I just use them because I like to work them and because I like the looks of them! How pathetic is that?? [:bigsmile:]

Posted 11/6/2002 7:14 PM (#49877)
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Divini, try putting light wire hooks on your jackpot. You'll get many more hookups that way. Having someone in the front of the boat with a prop style and a jackpot in the back is a great way to cover ground. It's also a great way to complement each other's presentation. Have your buddy try a faster retreve or a very slow retreve and he may have better sucess.

Posted 11/6/2002 7:47 PM (#49878)
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I prefer the Jackpot when the conditions are really calm. Seems to get that perfect side to side action going. I like the Dancin' Raider when theres a little chop to the water because it seems to break up the little waves or chop pretty good.

Just my opinion though,

Posted 11/6/2002 8:08 PM (#49879)
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My luck with both is the same as the previous post. Calm to light chop for the jackpot, andheavier waves for the t.r. Maybe because that's the conditions I chose to throw them in?? Big waves kill the side to side action on jackpots.

Posted 11/6/2002 8:28 PM (#49880)
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Right now I will go with Jackpot, I like the super-raider, then top-raider, and then tally-wacker, you can forget the awaker(in my opinon it is a piece of ###*#*#*#*). Good Fishing, Al[:praise:]

Posted 11/6/2002 9:30 PM (#49881)
Subject: jackpot versus topraider


I choose which one to throw on two things: the cover and the lake. Some lakes I cannot get fish to go on the jackpot and others it does great. I prefer to fish the topraider around surface structure i.e. pads, reeds, logs. I like the jackpot for more open water type fishing. Caught many more pike on the jackpot than the raider but the jackpot is my prefered lure.

Posted 11/7/2002 1:57 AM (#49882)
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the biggest I caught is a 44" (24lbs) pike but I lost a close 48" pike this summer (together with three other 40"ers) on one of my handmade jerkbaits! It hit the glider on the surface at 12 feet from the boat. Talk about topwater terror! [8)] [:bigsmile:]

I have learned a lot here on the board, i.e. on larger waters I do better with some advise I got here, also how to fish certain lures like reef hawgs, how to fish creatures, .... I also learned a lot from watching musky tapes, like working the wind, fishing windblown shoreline and islands, burning bucktails, bait modifications, ...

brian, I bet I would love muskies! But they would be a shared first with pike. I just love fishing for pike!

musky alan, what is wrong with the awaker? I have heard before that it's a no-good lure but it does produce!


Posted 11/7/2002 5:24 AM (#49883)
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They both have there time and place.

Posted 11/7/2002 5:27 AM (#49884)
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bill, when do you use either one? It seems like most people use the jackpot when it's relatively calm on the water and the topraider when it's windy
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