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| I am going to get a calcutta 401te this year and want the power handle and was wondering what my options are for tracking one down? please let me know
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Location: Elgin, IL | Dave's Reel Service. You'll definitely feel a difference |
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Location: Chesterton, Indiana | Vote 2 fore daves reel service. Bought my last two handle from that place. Very fast. |
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Location: montreal, canada | Part number btn3669 that's the one i got it's pretty sweet i'm pretty sure it's the same that they have on 700 TE |
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| thornes always has them in stock |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Another vote for Dave's Reel Service. He has over "40-years" of knowledge.
I ordered the Trinidad 12/14 (although in another area of his web site it's named the Trinidad 12) handle for my Calcutta 400 TE yesterday. I like the idea of a counter balance on the handle.
http://www.davesreelservice.com/pages/calcutta-handle-upgrade.php
Remember Dave's power handles are recessed which is a must.
I learned alot about drags, bearings etc,. during my short conversation with him, and worth a ton more than the cost of the phone call.
Also, what was really great is his honest opinions when it came to my ideas of replacing bearings etc,. He was willing to sell me what I thought I should have, but he set me straight, and advised me that in my situation, and considering what baits I use the reel for that there was no need to spend the money.
IMHO the fact that he was not trying to take advantage of me and my lack of reel knowledge for a fast buck, and provide me with information that saved me money is great customer service.
So I would say call Dave. He has a few different recessed power handles in a few price ranges.
Lastly, there is a price increase in the handle I bought, and maybe on the other handles as well. He told me his web site needs up-dating.
PS, I also bought some carbontex drag washers for the 400 TE from Dave as well.
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| ill add to Dave's reel Service. Great customer service and great guy. I sent my curado and calcutta 401te to him for drag upgrades, cleaning, power handle recession and I bought the 700BSV power handle for my 401te. It looks bada** and he takes good care of you. |
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| Looks like a bunch of options...would the 700bsv or trinidad handle be better? |
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| I like the looks of the 700bsv better....I know that doesnt mean a whole lot just personal preference. Ask Pikemaster, Ive heard him recommend the trini handle |
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| Avet handles. They are already recessed. Worth taking a look at. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Go with the Trinidad handle it has ball bearings in the paddle, I have a machine shop so I can recessed any handle. |
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| I have used both Trinidad 12/14 and 700bsv handles on my 400TE. I recommend getting the 700bsv handle and avoiding the Trinidad handle.
Although the Trinidad handle has a counterweight, it's not big enough and this handle will occasionally flip the bail closed when you cast. Keep in mind the Trinidad has a lever rather than an autoengaging bail so the handle isn't designed with that issue in mind. Positioning the handle every cast or turning it sideways to prevent the issue is a pain in the butt and you'll forget a few times per day - bad for the reel and bad for your body.
Since switching to the 700bsv with the larger counterweight, I've never had the handle flip the bail closed even once. Great mechanical advantage, smooth turning and comfortable handle, happiness.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | What I don't like about the 700 Handle is it is not very thick and alot of guys will twist it, as with the Trinidad handle it is very thick and no way will it twist on you. Plus the Trinidad Handle is LONGER so you will have more Power with the Trinidad handle over the 700 handle. If you hold the reel with the handle facing up on casts you won't have problems and you will backlash less.
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| So the Trinidad handle isn't as balanced as the 700bsv handle when using with the 401TE?
Either looks like a nice upgrade, but open to more opinions on this.
I won't use it a whole lot, so not sure if twisting is a concern for me with the 700bsv.
Pikemaster do you mean by casting with the paddle facing up it should not engage as much?
Thanks for the replies! |
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| Check out Dave's reel service. He added a larger counterweight to my TN12/14 handle to avoid the possibliity of a re-engage on the cast. Love it! |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | guest - 4/23/2012 10:36 AM
So the Trinidad handle isn't as balanced as the 700bsv handle when using with the 401TE?
Either looks like a nice upgrade, but open to more opinions on this.
I won't use it a whole lot, so not sure if twisting is a concern for me with the 700bsv.
Pikemaster do you mean by casting with the paddle facing up it should not engage as much?
Thanks for the replies!
YES cast with the handle side of the reel facing up and you will be fine .
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | RStien321 - 4/23/2012 10:57 AM
Check out Dave's reel service. He added a larger counterweight to my TN12/14 handle to avoid the possibliity of a re-engage on the cast. Love it!
Funny some guys have problems and some don't ????? with the reel engaging during the cast. I have remove the counter weight for some guys and added a bigger one and I know of one guy who still has the reel engauge on him, I think 99% of it has to do with how you cast. On my 4 ConQuest reels that I have a Trinidad Power Handles on, I allways cast with the handle side of reel facing up and my thumb is on the cast bar holding it down so the reel does not engage during the casting , so I set my reels up with 4 spool brakes on so I don't have to thumb the spool on the cast. No right or wrong here try different ways till you find what works for you. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Like RStien 321 says. Dave mentioned the atributes of having the correct weight on the Trinidad 12/14 handle in my conversation with him also; and is putting a larger counterweight on this handle for me.
The ball bearings in the paddle of this handle I think is a nice option also.
Best thing is to talk with Dave
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | I wonder why Shimano has a Non - Counter Weight on the LJV and on the Tranx ?
Alot guys use the LJV and now the Tranx and it does not need a counter weight handle ?????? |
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| I wonder why Shimano has a Non - Counter Weight on the LJV and on the Tranx? Alot guys use the LJV and now the Tranx and it does not need a counter weight handle??????
Since the LJV and Tranx were designed to use those larger non-balanced handles, were they also designed with heavier internal parts that prevent the reel from engaging on the cast? That would make a lot of sense and Shimano's pretty good at this stuff.
The problem with the TE engaging is only created when you overload the TE with a heavier non-balanced handle from a different reel. It never happens with the smaller double-paddle that was designed for it.
Simple solution: buy the 700bsv handle. It works better and it's cheaper.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Not getting paid - 4/23/2012 3:32 PM
I wonder why Shimano has a Non - Counter Weight on the LJV and on the Tranx? Alot guys use the LJV and now the Tranx and it does not need a counter weight handle??????
Since the LJV and Tranx were designed to use those larger non-balanced handles, were they also designed with heavier internal parts that prevent the reel from engaging on the cast? That would make a lot of sense and Shimano's pretty good at this stuff.
The problem with the TE engaging is only created when you overload the TE with a heavier non-balanced handle from a different reel. It never happens with the smaller double-paddle that was designed for it.
Simple solution: buy the 700bsv handle. It works better and it's cheaper.
You seem to know alot about the LJV and the TE reels, can you tell me what parts on the LJV are upgraded to handle a Non - Balanced Handle ??? I know from working on them for the last 3 years that the LJV has a different frame and has a brass Level wind Gear part #3899 over the the plastic gear # 1703 used on the TE reel but all other parts are identical if you look at a schmatic. They both share the same retractor spring part # 1223 and the same cluth pawl spring #2711 I would think that is what keeps the reel open during a cast but maybe I'm wrong. |
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| sounds like Dave modifies the Trinidad and puts a different weight on there.
If the Trinidad handle is properly balanced, would it be the better option seeing it has a ball bearing and round ball handle? |
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| I know from working on them...but maybe I'm wrong.
I definitely haven't worked on them the past 3 years (which is why I asked a question about the components), I've just been using them for actual fishing. The Trinidad handle will engage the TE no matter how careful you are, and the 700bsv handle will not. It's not as important why it's true as much as the fact that it is true.
Anyway I'm not the only one who discovered this, since Dave's Reel Service is adding extra counterweight to the Trinidad handles in response. Make sense of that however you like.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Like I said before, just keep your thumb on the spool release button during the cast and your reel won't 100% for sure not engage during the cast, without adding more weight to the reel handle. |
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