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MuskieMark01
Posted 3/10/2012 10:41 AM (#545057)
Subject: TranX 400?




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I'm seeing rumors on other forums...
Hmm....
pike2772
Posted 3/11/2012 7:58 PM (#545332 - in reply to #545057)
Subject: Re: TranX 400?




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Location: Chesterton, Indiana
Seems logical. Why not. Maybe a year or two so people will go crazy and spend the money for one of these too again.
MuskieMark01
Posted 3/12/2012 10:43 AM (#545433 - in reply to #545057)
Subject: Re: TranX 400?




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That's what I'm guessing Shimano's logic is. I'd be surprised if we didn't see the whole TranX line-up redone within the next couple years also like they just did to Trinidads.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 3/12/2012 10:56 AM (#545437 - in reply to #545057)
Subject: Re: TranX 400?





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
I'm sure the Curado 300 is being redone or discontinued ????????
kodiak
Posted 3/12/2012 11:09 AM (#545442 - in reply to #545057)
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Location: Okoboji
now i got to sell more sheeit....dam....
catchandrelease
Posted 3/12/2012 1:11 PM (#545482 - in reply to #545057)
Subject: Re: TranX 400?




My guess is that the biggest complaints on these will be 1) the height of the reel and the difficulty to palm, and 2) the overall weight and bulkiness. If Shimano is able to make a smaller, lighter reel that will have the same power and speed, there will definitely be a following for it. I'm just curious if that's even possible.
MuskieMark01
Posted 3/12/2012 6:46 PM (#545578 - in reply to #545482)
Subject: Re: TranX 400?




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catchandrelease - 3/12/2012 1:11 PM

My guess is that the biggest complaints on these will be 1) the height of the reel and the difficulty to palm, and 2) the overall weight and bulkiness. If Shimano is able to make a smaller, lighter reel that will have the same power and speed, there will definitely be a following for it. I'm just curious if that's even possible.


I would expect that it absolutely is. Make the spool a little smaller, hence a smaller frame but keep the same gear casing (it'd look a little funny, but it'd still work) and the same guts... You have a beast of a reel that's very easy to palm and cast.

And Pikemaster... I've been wondering myself about the Curado 300's getting re-done. The bass sizes are two generations ahead of the 300's, which haven't been re-done since they hit the market.
Chasin50
Posted 3/12/2012 6:51 PM (#545579 - in reply to #545057)
Subject: Re: TranX 400?




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Location: Michigan
Need to add leftys to the line up...
Pete Stoltman
Posted 3/12/2012 8:54 PM (#545616 - in reply to #545482)
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catchandrelease - 3/12/2012 1:11 PM

My guess is that the biggest complaints on these will be 1) the height of the reel and the difficulty to palm, and 2) the overall weight and bulkiness. If Shimano is able to make a smaller, lighter reel that will have the same power and speed, there will definitely be a following for it. I'm just curious if that's even possible.


Well, if there's one thing Japanese manufacturing is famous for it's making things smaller. I would guess if it were practical they would have done it in the first place but who knows? My guess is they'll see how many numbers of these reels they sell before making any additions or modifications to the line. It costs a lot of dough to design, engineer, tool up, produce, and market a product.
catchandrelease
Posted 3/13/2012 9:43 PM (#545826 - in reply to #545057)
Subject: Re: TranX 400?




I assumed the reason the TranX is as large as it is is to house the Trinidad's gears. How much smaller can they make it and still hold Trinidad gears?
GanderMTN-MAN
Posted 3/13/2012 10:36 PM (#545837 - in reply to #545057)
Subject: Re: TranX 400?




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Location: north metro, MN
I for one think the Tranx palms very well.. The power behind that reel is insane as well. Pat up at Thorne Bros tied on to a 15 pound anchor and reeled it across the floor with ease.
RStien321
Posted 3/14/2012 10:50 AM (#545934 - in reply to #545057)
Subject: RE: TranX 400?




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We can't really see the full spool height reduced too much without really effecting our ability to retrieve at quick speeds. If we want to crank in 40"+ per turn then large (tall) reels come with the territory. The only way to reduce the foot-print is to continue to get the reel to sit as close to the reel seat as possible. Or to get the spool to sit lower in the reel assembly.

As an example, lets say we took a 400TE and used the current Trinidad gearing. The retrieve we would expect to see is about 31 IPT.

Each time the handle is turned on a 400TE it picks up 25", each time the handle is turned the spool revolves 5 times (5.0:1 gear ratio). If we have a 6.2:1 gear ratio, the spool will turn 6.2 times per handle turn picking up about 31" of line. To get up to 40" of line per retrieve we are talking of a gear ratio up to 8.0:1..... I just don't see it. We will hit a point where the upsize of gear ratio seriously depletes power (As an example, the highest gear ratio we see in Bass reels is around 7.3:1). Of course, I could be wrong though.

I do think that a 400TE size reel (spool) with Trinidad/Tranx size 7:1 gears could be sweet for topwaters and dbl 8 blades (maybe 10's too).
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