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| For those of you who use mono line as backing before putting on braided, how much mono do you use? Also, what is the best knot to use to connect the mono to the braided? Thanks a lot for any advice you might be able to provide. |
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Location: VA | I usually back with 20lb Big Game. And split a spool of 150 yard braid for two reels. Double uni knot |
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| I use cheap 8-10 lb test (packs tight) and connect with a blood knot |
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Location: Minneapolis | I put a bunch of 12lb backing and I didn't even use up a 125 yd spool of braid. There's no way I will ever need 125 yards of braid on my reel. I connect w/ a blood knot. |
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Location: Minnesota | Whatever mono I have on hand... usually 15-20lbs test... I fill it up enough to a point where I only need to fill up with 75-80 yards of superbraid... 300yds spool of Bronzeback can go a long way... |
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| I agree with IAustin, light mono packs tight, I use whatever junk I have laying around. just like 75% of your muskie line will never even see water, there's no need for an elaborate knot to your backing. It's gonna live buried deep in your reel and never see the light of day. I use a quick overhand knot and trim it close, done. If you get a musky that spools out 150yds of line start fishin with a .308!
Put enough backing on to max out your reel with braid. I'm pretty accurate eyeballing it. I have an old, giant Penn that i can crank the braid back onto if I need to re-add more backing. Then reel the braid back off the Penn and onto the reel. Sure beats spooling up short and having to wrap back onto the plastic packaging spool by hand, add more backing, then re-load the braid again. |
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| Thanks, guys. Do you wet the mono first to get it to pack in tighter or is this not necessary? |
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Location: North Central IL USA | Whatever old mono I have left over tied on with a Double uni knot.
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| goose007us - 8/18/2011 12:19 PM
Thanks, guys. Do you wet the mono first to get it to pack in tighter or is this not necessary?
I never wet mine and it works fine, I since quit the backing and will just use the whole spool of braid on the reel and when I feel the time is right I'll unspool it and use the stuff on top as the the bottom and newer stuff that was on the bottom is on the top now! |
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| Why bother with mono and a blood knot when all you need is a piece of electrical tape wrapped around your bare spool before you add your braid. The tape will provide anti slip for the braid which will eventually cut through any mono with any kind of knot due to the physical properties of both. I have used electrical tape since braid was introduced and I had my first striper spool me while I watched helplessly. |
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| striperman - 8/31/2011 8:33 PM
Why bother with mono and a blood knot when all you need is a piece of electrical tape wrapped around your bare spool before you add your braid. The tape will provide anti slip for the braid which will eventually cut through any mono with any kind of knot due to the physical properties of both. I have used electrical tape since braid was introduced and I had my first striper spool me while I watched helplessly.
Totally agree. Never back with mono myself. Just use electrical tape on the spool. Never have to worry. |
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Location: N.FIB | fishing for muskies you won`t get spooled since most keep there drag locked down,braid cost alot more than mono so by not adding as much braid you save on cost |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | CASTING55 - 9/1/2011 7:39 AM
fishing for muskies you won`t get spooled since most keep there drag locked down,braid cost alot more than mono so by not adding as much braid you save on cost
Not true if you figure the amount of line you waste when you cast and hit the knot and have to throw away 50 yards of line. Fill the entire spool of the reel with braid except for about 15-20 feet of mono to hold to the spool. When you break off or line gets low, pull the braid off and install more backing behind it to bring up the spool diameter. |
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Location: N.FIB | I put about 75 to 100 yds on each reel,not hitting any knot,if I spooled my penn 975`s without mono I would have to put alot more braid on the reels,mono is cheap and can get a 1000 yd spool off ebay for cheap.I like buying 300 yd spools and getting 3 reels spooled out of it.some people don`t put much braid on at all but if you see a kink in your line or some weak spot you will be putting more line on in the boat and thats something I try to avoid. |
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| If you use backing then throw on a full 150 yard spool you would need to attach rockets to your lure to hit the knot or even uncover a well tied knot. I'm willing to wager there isn't a single setup and angler out there who can throw any lure significantly farther than I can throw some of my WTDs. I would have to throw it at least twice as far before I have any trouble. |
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| Musky fishing is an expensive hobby. the last thing i worry about is the cost of braid. If we find it easy to pay $25 for a bucktail, then why not $20 a reel for braid that will last 3+ years instead of playing around with mono. I use my reels every cast so durability is important. I also re-tie my leaders after 4 hours of fishing with them, taking off about 6'. Especially if i am in a tournment. Again, don't want to worry about mono. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | My point is if you fish heavy cover and structures with heavy cover (rocks and timber) line gets frayed. It is very common that I cut off 30' of line a day from line being frayed. If you put on 50 yards of line and cut 10-30' off a day from heavy cover and frays, you will replace line often and waste a ton. |
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| Not many folks are cutting 10'-30' off per day...i bet I don't cut more than 15' off any given reel in an entire season and I fish 2-4 days a week. But, I'm also not banging rocks much other than when I'm in Canada a week or two a year. I put about 75 yards of braid on my reels and replace it when enough is gone that it's affecting my ability to work lures. That's usually when about 20 yards or so is gone...usually every other year. That's about $5/year/reel to have fresh line and a full spool. |
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Location: MN | jackson - 9/1/2011 12:41 PM
Musky fishing is an expensive hobby. the last thing i worry about is the cost of braid. If we find it easy to pay $25 for a bucktail, then why not $20 a reel for braid that will last 3+ years instead of playing around with mono. I use my reels every cast so durability is important. I also re-tie my leaders after 4 hours of fishing with them, taking off about 6'. Especially if i am in a tournment. Again, don't want to worry about mono.
This ^^^^ |
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Location: Waukee, IA | whynot - 9/1/2011 1:19 PM
Not many folks are cutting 10'-30' off per day...i bet I don't cut more than 15' off any given reel in an entire season and I fish 2-4 days a week. But, I'm also not banging rocks much other than when I'm in Canada a week or two a year. I put about 75 yards of braid on my reels and replace it when enough is gone that it's affecting my ability to work lures. That's usually when about 20 yards or so is gone...usually every other year. That's about $5/year/reel to have fresh line and a full spool.
You must not fish around timber. I've had to cut at least 30 feet off before when a submerged tree frayed me for what must have been half of the cast. For what we are all willing to spend on trucks, boats, guides, half a dozen rod/reels, 573 different lure patterns in 9 colors each, clear plexiglass tackle boxes that cost $500, I'm astonished that so many people are so CHEAP about fishing line. It attaches you to the fish, open your wallets folks.
I back with enough 20 lb mono to fill the spool with 150 yards of 80# braid. Turn the line around on the spool after a year of use for the fresh end. |
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| I use 40 lb mono because it fills up the spool faster, and if I ever do get down to mono fighting a fish, I don't worry about my line being too wimpy. I put on enough so that I have enough braid over it so I won't ever have the knot rubbing a hole in my thumb when casting and thumbing the spool. I use back-to-back reverse nail knots. |
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Location: NE PA | I use electrical tape as my base. I unspool old braid with a line counter (so I know how much to replace), then pull it off of the line counter with an electric drill to an old plastic spool and use this as my backer. I connect line with a double uni-knot. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | electrical tape.. fill her up with bronzeback! |
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| tkuntz - 4/23/2015 6:32 AM
whynot - 9/1/2011 1:19 PM
Not many folks are cutting 10'-30' off per day...i bet I don't cut more than 15' off any given reel in an entire season and I fish 2-4 days a week. But, I'm also not banging rocks much other than when I'm in Canada a week or two a year. I put about 75 yards of braid on my reels and replace it when enough is gone that it's affecting my ability to work lures. That's usually when about 20 yards or so is gone...usually every other year. That's about $5/year/reel to have fresh line and a full spool.
You must not fish around timber. I've had to cut at least 30 feet off before when a submerged tree frayed me for what must have been half of the cast. For what we are all willing to spend on trucks, boats, guides, half a dozen rod/reels, 573 different lure patterns in 9 colors each, clear plexiglass tackle boxes that cost $500, I'm astonished that so many people are so CHEAP about fishing line. It attaches you to the fish, open your wallets folks.
I back with enough 20 lb mono to fill the spool with 150 yards of 80# braid. Turn the line around on the spool after a year of use for the fresh end.
Nope, I don't, and it's not about money for me...although I don't see the point of wasting it. I replace line when needed to keep the spool full or when it's time due to wear. When the spool gets a little low, I notice a change in retrieve speed and how lures are acting due to that. |
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