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| How Yall are? I'm new here and I'm not sure if there is already a thread so I thought I'd just go on ahead and start my own. How many of yall use plastics that are usually for bass, take a liZARD for example, for muskie? I've caught a few by gosh darn mistake and now I'm itchin to find out if anyone else uses them on purpose? If yall do, what kinda rig yall got set up? thanks, Dirt |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | A little on the subject, hope this helps!
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/articles/11.11.2005/982/Of.Jigs.and... |
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Location: On the water | How can I get into the past articles. Thanks. |
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| Dirt,
Dick Moore of Moore's Lures is a respected tackle component supplier, and he also sells some very reasonably priced Musky sized rigged creatures, rigged reapers and rigged lizards. They are about $3/ea which is about as cheap as you are going to find any Musky lure. You can find them in his catalog here:
http://www.mooreslures.com/Full2011Catalog.pdf
I have generally have better luck with with jigs/soft plastics for Bass than with hard lures such as cranks or jerks, but to be honest I just haven't found the patience to fish them for Muskies very much.
Good fishin'
ETA: See page 38 of the catalog (page 40 of the .pdf file)
Edited by Makintrax73 8/5/2011 11:16 AM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'How can I get into the past articles. Thanks.'
Click on the 'news' tab. Select a year from the drop down list. Done! |
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| Thanks for all yall help... I'll see if I can put some of those tips into action to get some of them ski's! |
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Location: On the water | Steve, thanks for the help. Tom |
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| Very interesting article. Could you come close enough to the "popping' action described in the article with a baitcaster if you did a rise and fall with the rod? I realize you might not sense a hit as well, but wouldn't the action be similar? Just looking for a way of giving this a good try without an outlay for new gear.
Are the Moore's creatures close to what you use?
Thanks. |
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| I went out to a pond near by and tried using some plastics just to see the action using different set ups. I tried using a YUM doozee with my spinning rod with 12# vanish florocarbon, its a 6'9" abu garcia vendetta Medium. Then i tried the same YUM doozee with my lighter muskie rig. its 65lb power pro 7' MH gander mountain rod with baitcaster and 50# tyger wire leader. The action on the doozee was awesome with the spinning reel, exactly what i wanted. the action on the musky rig was no good. my question is this, should I rather use my spinning reel set up with the 20# vanish florocarbon and 50# tyger wire leader, or my baitcaster set up with the 20# florocarbon with the tyger wire leader? I do not want to sacrifice the action of the creature, what are the pros and cons of each rig? |
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| If you are using lighter line and lighter equip etc.. you are risking a lot of stress on the fish, especially now with the warmer temps. Also if you get a big fish you could easily run the risk of them breaking off, even if you have never had it happen to you before. |
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| mostly when it comes to muskies the best thing to do is kind of horse them in as quickly as you can so you dont play them out so much and possibly kill them espicially with high water temps, so do what gives it the best action as you can but one that will handle fighting the fish without playing them out too much! |
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| Thanks for the quick responses |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'If you are using lighter line and lighter equip etc.. you are risking a lot of stress on the fish, especially now with the warmer temps. Also if you get a big fish you could easily run the risk of them breaking off, even if you have never had it happen to you before.'
That's a sure sign you have no idea how long it takes to whip a muskie on a well balanced creature rod. Not any longer than it takes on my 8.5' Okuma, and sometimes even a shorter fight is the reality. mark actually shipped me a 7' Okuma spinning rod I like alot...sensitive, but powerful enough to drag around a boat anchor. It's my favorite creature rod now, and they never went into production...dang it.
Ask Shep about the hook set I can get out of that thing.
And no way would I break off a fish, anymore than I would with 80# on an 8.5' extra heavy rod. I have caught more muskies on creatures than any other technique, and I assure you they are not overplayed.
Spinning tackle has tremendous leverage if balanced well, and most muskie reels in the middle category don't have enough drag to break off my favorite lines for the technique even cranked all the way down.
The reason spinning tackle works well for that technique is the very fast line pick up and the general sensitivity of the outfit.
Dick bought my company years ago, and still provides many of the the same lures Jim Cairnes and I designed years back. |
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| sworrall what is your set up for your creature rod? |
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| Don't forget, most saltwater guys use spinning tackle, and those fish would burn a Muskie in seconds. Salmon too. My King Salmon rig is a 7' MH St. Croix Elite with a Quantum Energy 3000 spooled with 14# Fireline. Muskie? No contest. |
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