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| When it comes to dawgs, which are better for "ripping" them? The regular harness in mag or regular sized or the pro harness in mag or regular? Or has anyone had greater success with a different swimbait for ripping other than dawgs? |
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| WiscoEsox94 - 6/21/2011 1:53 PM
Or has anyone had greater success with a different swimbait for ripping other than dawgs?
I really like ripping the MI Jimmy. I've only used the larger of the two but it WTD nicely with very hard rips. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | If I'm just straight rip'n, I'd go with the straight harness and not the pro dawgs. Just personal preference, but the pro dawgs seem to "wander" a bit off to the side which I don't like.
Another bait you can rip well and it doesn't get bent up are the hardheads. If you turn the tail down, you can rip them hard like a dawg, and you can adjust the weight sizes in the head of the bait to fish faster or slower. Plus, once you catch a fish, you just have to touch up the hooks, and throw it again without having to correct the action since they won't bend. (might just need to screw a new tail on). |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | tuffy1 - 6/21/2011 3:14 PM
Another bait you can rip well and it doesn't get bent up are the hardheads. If you turn the tail down, you can rip them hard like a dawg, and you can adjust the weight sizes in the head of the bait to fish faster or slower. Plus, once you catch a fish, you just have to touch up the hooks, and throw it again without having to correct the action since they won't bend. (might just need to screw a new tail on).
I second the HH! |
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| I have been playing with the medusa's and you can really reef on the harnesses and get then to do whatever you want, I have been ripping them too and there tails are just all over crazy when retrieved that fast! |
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Location: Tonka, MN | IMO Dussa's don't rip too well. You can hop em fast but otherwise they don't run true. Pro dawgs are fine if you rip em down but otherwise stick with the straight harness ones. I've been using swimbaits like the shadillacs lately and you can rip they hell out of em and they run true. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Here is the internal harness I have in all of my SuperD swimbaits:
MiniD, Reg SuperD, Mag SuperD and MegaD lures. I have yet to have one complaint about the lead coming out of the nose of the baits in about 6 years!
James
PS-As a swimbait user I have beaten up Shack Attack lures a lot and Andy's baits are very rock solid too. I think he uses a specially coated wire harness that really grabs onto the plastisol. Good design and those things are tanks!
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| James, on the older plastic that you used on ur SuperD's I had the super D split down the middle and the head was coming out of the bait. The bait itself was rocked by several fish, but never actually had a fish caught on it.
I melted the head and everything else to keep it in shape, but it stopped running true for me. I have some pics i can email you of exactly what it looks like |
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| I love rippin' the Medussa. They , like most rubber swimbaits, can be tuned. They move a ton of water when ripped and have a little glide at the end of the rip. Good stuff. The 4 footer on Saturday liked it too, unfortunatly not enough to eat!!! Stupid fish. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Steve, where are you finding any 4 footers in CR?  At least tell me so I can get my fix in! |
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Location: Michigan | All the baits (Dawgs, SuperDs, Hardheads) are great and have different action, but when really ripping a bait I like the MagSuperDs and Hardheads. Make sure the bait is tuned so that it runs straight and doesn't kick off to the side as more fish seem to eat it when the bait runs true. |
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Location: Michigan | swanezy - 6/22/2011 10:37 AM
The bait itself was rocked by several fish
Above probably explains below
swanezy - 6/22/2011 10:37am
James, on the older plastic that you used on ur SuperD's I had the super D split down the middle and the head was coming out of the bait. |
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| Has anyone had any experience with the shadzilla? Like to get my hands on some of these along with the hard heads, not sure about the superD's though. And as far as some are saying how they hold up, i think it is kind of secondary to which ones catch fish, if i have to replace them very once and a while im not to worried.. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Lots of good rubber baits out there right now. Curly Sues were the first baits I used that could actually hold up to the rigors of hard ripping, as well as catching a lot of fish. I have a blue/silver 11" Curly Sue that has seen it's fair share of fish and fishing time, and it is still going.
The tackle Industries Super D's came along. They had a good internal harness that held eveything together pretty well. The plastic was still fairly soft, and depending on what happened, could be chewed up by fish pretty quickly at times. Some guys seemed to have the belly split right under the head. That wasn't much of a problem for me though. Their excellent price point made up for a slight lack of durability.
During this time, Dawgs were junk in my opinion. They were just as expensive as everything else, and unless you caught a fish in the first few hours with one, they would usually self destruct before you could catch anything on them...
THESE DAYS, things have changed. Shack Attack still rocks, the Super D's have gone to harder rubber and are about as tough as anything you will find. Bulldawgs have improved to the point where they hold up well enough to work pretty well.
I have a Medussa, which seems durable and should catch fish. I haven't given it enough time, but they catch fish for the people that use them. I also bought a couple twisted tullibees this winter. They seem pretty tough. Not sure if they are what you would call a ripping bait, but they seem to have a place also.
In short, my main tools for ripping rubber baits deep are in no particular order: Super D's, Bulldawgs, Shack Attack baits, and I almost forgot to mention the H2O Hardhead. Since I bought a Hardhead it has been one of my top producing baits. Can easily be fished from the surface to as deep as you want with the weight set, and blows any other rubber baits out of the water as far as durability. You can hope them, swim them, and certainly rip them.
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