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Location: Xenia, Ohio | Can Musky’s be caught out of the exact same spot year after year?, Me and my buddy's caught (3) 50 inches fish (Canada) out of the same spot and same lake same lily pad do you think they will be there this year when we head to Canda in July for our yearly trip? |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Back About 20 years ago I was tagging fish for a MNR/ Muskies Canada study I tagged eight 40 inch fish off one mid lake hump in the course of about 3 weeks so it is not necessarily the same fish unless you can positivly identify it. That being said we had one tagged river fish that was caught repetedly over a five year period in the same spot on the same lure. ( I think she knew I just wanted to play maybe she liked having her picture taken) |
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| Why wouldn't they be in the same spot? I would certainly give it a try. A good spot is good spot. |
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Location: West Virginia | Absolutly they can be in the same spot. There are actually a couple write ups on this subject in this months Musky Hunter. |
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| The scientific literature indicates that indeed they can return to the same, or roughly the same, summer home ranges each year. Given more time with Project Noble Beast I would have liked to look at inter-annual movements. Guess that's a project for another grad student! |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | according to the hayward tracking studies.....  |
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| Although I have read the alleged claims from the Chip tracking study, I'm referring to other studies. I was trying to find papers in my catalog of peer-reviewed studies, but could only come up with a multi-year tracking study contained in a thesis by Richard Monfette from the University of Montreal. I guess I thought there were a few others that stated that, but apparently not. Jordan Weeks' study is one of the few that tracked muskies across multiple years, but there's no indication of specifically where the fish returned to (other than 53% returned to the same lake in the Manitowish Chain). He might be able to shed some light on this subject if he's reading this. |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | The leech lake tracking study indicated that captured fish fled the area (often swimming miles away)..... but would return to the area of capture around the same time the following season. I'm assuming that study was legit....... For what its worth. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Sean,
I wasn't poking at you, just having some fun in general. I hope you took it as such.
Jordan's study had some interesting stuff in it, some of it changed my fishing philosophies quite a bit, especially in the spring. |
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| Can Musky’s be caught out of the exact same spot year after year?...do you think they will be there this year??? there's two ways to read this question: 1) can a specific muskie be caught off the same spot year after year? possibly. it happens. muskies are weird, and sometimes dumb. 2) will muskies use a particular spot year after year? most definitely! once you've found a good spot, it's likely to hold fish under similar conditions in the future. there's a very good reason they were there, and that'll probably be true again. i assume you're mostly interested in the second question, wondering whether that particular location will be holding muskies when you get up to Canada this summer. if you've caught multiple 50" fish off that spot in the past, i wouldn't let a day go by during your trip without visiting it at least a time or three. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | not sure who said it but it may have been credited to Herbie..."big fish spots are always big fish spots"...I use the skull and crossbones icon on my lowrances for big fish follows/hits/caught...(I use that one as I'm not on water w hazards much and that particular icon stands out bigtime) I'm talking big...def 50" fish...sub 50 inchers just get a fish icon....it's amazing yr after yr on the same lakes the fish that are caught and hit on those skull and crossbone Icons...
it's a no brainer really.... for me, even if I haven't been on the lake since the summer prior I head to the big fish spots 1st and when it's "go time" and fish are eating one thing to capitalize that a lot I see on the water not doing is jump to big fish icon to big fish icon....one thing to put more 50"ers in the net is to not fiddle fuk around when fish are eating and waste time on dead water...go to the spots you have seen and caught big ones and you'll simply catch more big ones
works on any body of water you fish.
Edited by BNelson 6/3/2011 12:50 PM
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Location: Nordeast Minneapolis | Will they be there? I'd say the odds are pretty good that yes, they will. Will they be there when you are, though??? That's tougher, I think. Depends on what, about that spot, made it a draw at that time of year, and whether or not those conditions are the same this year. Different water temps, weed growth, etc. could affect whether or not those fish have decided to camp out on a certain spot at a certain time of year.
But you'd better believe I'm going to hit the 'hot spot' we came across in Canada last year, just to check! |
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| Norm,
I was with ya the whole time  Don't worry, you got a chuckle out of me!
Jason's right, too, about Bob Strand's Leech Lake study. Here's the excerpt I think Jason was referring to: "Return movements from spawning grounds to summer ranges were also characterized by directed movements, frequently crossing large open stretches of lake but at a slower rate of travel. Five of 6 fish from the main basin had returned within the bounds of their summer home range within 17 to 33 days... of vacating the spawning sites....All 4 fish from Walker Bay returned to summer ranges within 7 to 9 days. This is similar to what occurred in the main basin, considering distances traveled." |
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Location: Hayward ,Wisconsin | I fish the "CHIP'" and have seen fish in the same spot from year to year. I have also seen same fish in same spot month to month around moon phases. |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I have caught fish on the same spots for the past 20 years. There is only so much structure in any lake and the Muskies use whatever is available. There are a lot of variables like water levels, baitfish location, water temps and weed growth that determine how much the fish use any particular spot at any particular time. And then some spots are good all year, some in the summer, and some not until late fall.
So, yes, a spot that was good last year may be good this year. And then maybe not or just not yet. All one can do is check the spots and see if anything is there. If not, fish another spot. |
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Location: Xenia, Ohio | Thanks I will let everybody know if they are still there when I go to Canada in July , I will be up there the whole month poor me !!! |
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| Jordan Weeks has the data regarding specific fish locations (from his thesis) and is planning on publishing it at a later time.
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| Fish will 100% use the same spot year after year. There has been enough litaraure published to support this statement. Steve Rustberg wrote an article about the same fish returning to the spot of capture along with many others. From the tracking studies I have seen, they have a milk run just like us. They go from spot to spot finding baitfish or getting out of the current to rest/digest. In Green Bay, they are starting to prove that not only do muskies go back to the same spawning areas; they might also continue to mate with the same partner.
If they are not in the same spot, look for areas adjacent to that structure. Also, try trolling deeper around the structure. Congrats on the fish--it seems like you're really onto something. Go get another hog. |
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| Sound advice Nelson! |
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