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sworrall
Posted 4/13/2011 9:44 AM (#492664 - in reply to #492656)
Subject: RE: Photography





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I have the T2i, and like it. It offers minor improvements over the T1i, mostly in the video department, which is why I bought the camera.

Some really good deas on the T1i out there. Should be a good camera for you.
esox1750
Posted 4/13/2011 1:35 PM (#492718 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: RE: Photography


Thanks for the info Steve! Thats pretty much what I understood the differences to be between the t1i and t2i and I wont be doing much of any video so I figured I could save a few bucks and go with the t1i.....

Ive been doing a little bit of looking around at prices at places like buy.com. Know of any other places to check that usually run some deal?

thanks,
John
sworrall
Posted 4/13/2011 3:19 PM (#492752 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: Re: Photography





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
There's a quite a few, just look at the buyers experiences from each before ordering.

I always check Tiger Direct and Overstock.com, they sometimes offer up a real gem.
muskie-addict
Posted 4/13/2011 9:33 PM (#492812 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: RE: Photography




Posts: 272


I get questioned all the time about "what's the best camera" and get statements like "boy I be that thing takes great pictures" when they see me lugging around a $4k lens screwed on a $3k body.

Umm, yeah. I guess. But the camera doesn't do it by itself. I couldn't hand it to just anybody and have them turn out great images. Most folks wouldn't know which end to look through.

This is all sounding condescending, and its not meant that way.

My point is "the best camera" that's going to "take great pictures" is the one you feel comfortable with. All the bells and whistles and megapixels on the planet.....ain't gunna do you a pinch of crap if you don't know what you're doing. Learn the setup you've got. Know the functions. Learn the limitations and how to avoid and overcome them.

A camera is a box that lets light in. You tell it how much, and for how long. An obvious over-simplification, but at the heart of it all, that's what you're actually dealing with.

The clothes do not make the man, and the camera does not make a photographer. I teach mini-classes from time to time at our studio. You'd be amazed what people DON'T know about their cameras, and how often they just want to jump to the next new model because they think that the sheer act of buying that new camera or a $400 strobe will make them a better photographer. Not so.

-Eric

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Lens Creep
Posted 4/14/2011 6:45 AM (#492853 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: Re: Photography





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Eric, I hear similar things a lot. I do a lot of paying photography jobs and sell photos on a regular basis. I couldn't count how many times someone has seen my work and said "You must have a really good camera." No, I have a midrange camera but took the time to read the manual. If people would do a google search and learn aperture, shutter speed and ISO, and how to control them they could vastly improve their results. A buddy of mine has a $3000.00 camera and 2 $1200.00 lenses and I blow his work out of the water. He has the bank account but isn't willing to take the time to learn how to use what he has. His work should be out of my league with the equipment he has. Anyway, like you say it's not the camera ENTIRELY, but quality equipment can help. I once won $500.00 with a picture I took with a 3.1mp HP camera that cost me about $100.00, because I knew what it could do and how to operate it to the best of it's ability.
firstsixfeet
Posted 4/14/2011 7:49 AM (#492858 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: Re: Photography




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LOL, I can't believe we can get into a "mine is bigger than yours" discussion talking about cameras.

All I can say is, I am sure you are all legends or, should be, and I expect you to enter my photography contest next week.
muskie-addict
Posted 4/14/2011 2:39 PM (#492949 - in reply to #492858)
Subject: Re: Photography




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firstsixfeet - 4/14/2011 7:49 AM

LOL, I can't believe we can get into a "mine is bigger than yours" discussion talking about cameras.

All I can say is, I am sure you are all legends or, should be......


If that's what you're reading from me, you didn't get the gist of what I was saying.

Taken Sunday night.....best bolts were during the downpour, which cameras don't like very much. Mostly cloud-to-cloud lightning though. Which looks cool, except if you're taking pictures. Best I could do from my driveway while my wife and kids were deciding whether or not to hit the basement as the tornado sirens were going off.

-Eric


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muskie-addict
Posted 4/14/2011 2:59 PM (#492959 - in reply to #492023)
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I don't get to do much "fun" photography. Kind of like a carpenter going home at night and building a garden shed in the backyard. But here's a couple: spawning muskies and some venison.....


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muskie-addict
Posted 4/14/2011 3:02 PM (#492960 - in reply to #492023)
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muskie-addict
Posted 4/14/2011 3:04 PM (#492963 - in reply to #492023)
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sworrall
Posted 4/14/2011 8:28 PM (#493030 - in reply to #492949)
Subject: Re: Photography





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Nice work Eric, I really like the spawning muskies shot.

Examples from the OFM Nikons; Tournament Coverage images; we shoot as many as 500 a day at events to tell the entire story and allow every competitor a shot or two. Sometimes we have time to carefully compose the shot (rarely), sometimes things are happening REALLY fast. It's really enjoyable work for all of us.

Tommy Skarlis considers the upcoming day's competition.

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Gray Parsons working two jigging rods..

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Mark Brumbaugh Heading out

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Big Fish shot from an MWC event

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HDR, Zach's 300s, Approaching storm in SOuth Dakota over the sunflower fields. Little black blurs are huge groups of dragon flies hovering over the fields.

South Dakota Thunderstorm in HDR


Long exposure of approaching thunderstorm and our crew's 'lodging' in the prairies of South Dakota at the 2010 AIM.


Night house

Carlos and Skarlis, in the AIM trailer after the final weigh in...No Explanations..

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Richie Boggs Wins..

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South Dakota Wrap


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Merc National Take Off

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Random stuff

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Fun stuff.
PSYS
Posted 4/14/2011 8:42 PM (#493033 - in reply to #493030)
Subject: Re: Photography





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Location: APPLETON, WI

One of my co-workers actually got a new Nikon D7000.  I'm more surprised he was able to find one in stock locally than I am he actually bought it.  Sadly enough, he's add the camera for 6-8 weeks now and he's never once take it out of "AUTO" mode.

You wanna know what's really sad?  When people purchase fancy pants Nikon and Canon camera's and the poor camera body's never ONCE in their entire life ever see full manual mode.  The user bought it because they wanted a camera they looked like they've got a nice camera.  Sadly enough, they don't know a thing about it.  The dial stays in full auto and/or program mode and that's it.  Why not just buy a point 'n shoot.

Am I an expert?  Hardly.  Avid amateur photographer?  You bet. 

I love my Fujifilm S200EXR.  =)  Here are a few manual mode shots:

 

 

 

Reef Hawg
Posted 4/14/2011 8:46 PM (#493034 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: RE: Photography




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Location: north central wisconsin
Legend? Could be, or at least Eric got to follow one in the making during 2010. He took many of the team photos of last years' Superbowl winning Pack, capturing the preseason team shots, followed by being one of the few invited to the sidelines during the Superbowl to take pics before, during and after the game. He's the last to 'toot his own horn', but his $.02 holds water when it comes to photography at all levels. He has professional bias and is used to top end gear, but looking from the outside as a 'family photo hack' looking for a rig similar to the author of this thread, I learned a great deal from those who chimed in on this discussion.

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muskie-addict
Posted 4/15/2011 6:28 PM (#493219 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: RE: Photography


Steve-

Thanks. The two spawners under my feet has been my computer desktop since the spring of '09.

How much post production work are you doing to your files. They appear to either have the sharpening punched up some in the camera, or the color set to "vivid," or they've been putzed with in PhotoShop.

Nice images, they are VERY sharp, crisp and punchy.

-Eric
sworrall
Posted 4/15/2011 6:48 PM (#493224 - in reply to #493219)
Subject: RE: Photography





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Eric,
No work on any of the images posted with the exception of the sunflower field; High Dynamic Range from Zach's D300s. Here's another from Zach and the description:
'HDR image of a storm approaching I-90 at Witoka, MN. Image is composed of 5 images and processed/tone mapped in Photoshop CS4.'


storm_hdr

Pretty cool process.
tcbetka
Posted 4/15/2011 6:56 PM (#493225 - in reply to #493224)
Subject: RE: Photography




Location: Green Bay, WI
Wow guys...some of these pictures are incredible! I would love to learn more about digital photography, but never seem to find the time. Another thing to add to my "to do" list.

Loved the spawning muskies shot, and those weather shots especially. Very impressive, indeed!

I forgot to add, that I did learn a little about digital videography, a couple years back. I'd like to do more, but one thing I learned quickly was that the thing that separates the good photographers from the GREAT ones, is the eye for the shot. I have a good friend who has an unbelievable eye for the shot. He's amazing! I understand much of the terminology and technology--but I do not have the eye for the shot. Maybe that's something that can be learned to some degree, but I'll bet take years to refine.

TB

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sworrall
Posted 4/15/2011 7:19 PM (#493226 - in reply to #493225)
Subject: RE: Photography





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Excellent light is also a good friend.This is a shot from a little Nikon Coolpix I carry in my Frabill Ice Suit, I never go hardly anywhere without something I can shoot a picture with. Lotsa bounce off of the snow, so the angle lit up the subject ( the Perch, actually) nicely.

The eagle was dining on any gill I tossed it, and I got this as it flew by my flip-over...out of the window on the front with the little Coolpix. Luck is good too. Sometimes cool is cooler than quality.

Eric, you got any more Muskie images?


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sworrall
Posted 4/15/2011 8:33 PM (#493245 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: Re: Photography





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Esox1750,
I have a tournament to cover tomorrow, and will shoot what I need entirely with the Canon T21. The weather will be bad and the light worse, so you should get an idea what the T1i will do using the stock Canon EF-S Zoom - 18 mm - 55 mm - F/3.5-5.6 - Canon EF-S lens.
esox1750
Posted 4/16/2011 8:27 AM (#493324 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: RE: Photography


Thanks Steve! I look forward to seeing them....

John
sworrall
Posted 4/17/2011 12:23 AM (#493491 - in reply to #493324)
Subject: RE: Photography





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Here are a few, horrible conditions, wet lens the entire time...nasty, but the fish were active!

I left the Nikon in the case, and shot everything with the T2i.


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lambeau
Posted 4/17/2011 8:52 AM (#493514 - in reply to #492812)
Subject: RE: Photography


muskie-addict - 4/13/2011 9:33 PM I get questioned all the time about "what's the best camera" and get statements like "boy I be that thing takes great pictures" when they see me lugging around a $4k lens screwed on a $3k body. Umm, yeah. I guess. But the camera doesn't do it by itself. I couldn't hand it to just anybody and have them turn out great images. Most folks wouldn't know which end to look through. This is all sounding condescending, and its not meant that way. My point is "the best camera" that's going to "take great pictures" is the one you feel comfortable with. All the bells and whistles and megapixels on the planet.....ain't gunna do you a pinch of crap if you don't know what you're doing. Learn the setup you've got. Know the functions. Learn the limitations and how to avoid and overcome them. A camera is a box that lets light in. You tell it how much, and for how long. An obvious over-simplification, but at the heart of it all, that's what you're actually dealing with. The clothes do not make the man, and the camera does not make a photographer. I teach mini-classes from time to time at our studio. You'd be amazed what people DON'T know about their cameras, and how often they just want to jump to the next new model because they think that the sheer act of buying that new camera or a $400 strobe will make them a better photographer. Not so. -Eric
are you actually suggesting that people take the time to learn a camera's functions and how to match settings to conditions? that's a weird and radical concept in a world of automatic everything. who knew? great pictures guys...that sunflower/storm shot belongs in a magazine, Steve, or at least a frame on your wall.
MuskieTom
Posted 4/18/2011 10:31 PM (#493841 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: Re: Photography




Posts: 146


Location: where the fish are...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/evilmini/

Heres my moms Flickr, she runs a nikon d7000 and has another couple year old nikon which the older pics from her sets were taken with. She really likes to do macro stuff but some cool stuff on her page, mostly taken from North Carolina.
Lens Creep
Posted 4/19/2011 9:11 PM (#493973 - in reply to #492023)
Subject: Re: Photography





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I use a Nikon D90 now after wearing out my D50. If anyone wants to see some of my work you can check out my website here: http://allmeans.smugmug.com/

I just uploaded the trip photos from my Sturgeon outing on the Rainy River over the weekend. Pretty chilly up there.


Edited by Lens Creep 4/19/2011 9:14 PM
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