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Posted 8/28/2002 3:03 PM (#4112)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


Anyone have some good tricks for attaching grubtails to thier bucktails? Do you just thread the twistertail onto one point of the treble hook? Do you remove the hook and push the hook shaft through the twistertail body? Do you add a piece of wire with a bend in it to hold on the grub? Do any of these work better? Are grub tails even necessary on a bucktail? What are your thoughts and tips? Thanks.

Posted 8/28/2002 3:16 PM (#42894)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


I usually hang a fresh 2" Berkley power grub on the treble. (Just like a mister twister). I just poke it through the side near the top of the grub; I don't thread it on the hook because it always slides down the hook shaft after a few casts. That little tail may add a little more visual interest, and I think it surely adds some scent to the situation. You'll be surprised how long they last on the hook - it usually takes a solid strike to damage or strip off the grub.

Posted 8/28/2002 3:27 PM (#42895)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


I use the double tail twister, usually white or yellow, and just push one hook of the treble through. I'm sure it increases the strick ratio.[;)]

Posted 8/28/2002 3:29 PM (#42896)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


Jason, I find that more and more of my bucktails have a 5 inch grub on them. This year it seems to be making a difference. Don't know why, but when something is working, I just go with it.

As for attaching them, all I do is push the treble through the body of the grub, real simple but seams to work well. God bless.

John
Oneida Esox Guide Service

Posted 8/28/2002 5:35 PM (#42897)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


I just started doing this recently and I hope that I can describe it so that it is understandable.
I've been usin 5" Kalins and ZOOM Fat Alberts.
I thread the eye of the hook into the head of the grub from about 3/4' below the head coming forward. I used to just leave it at that, but now I've taken it a little bit further. When I push the eye of the hook into the grub, I make sure that it lines up with one of the hook shanks. Then after the eye passes through the tip of the grub, I take the hook that lines up with the body of the tail and push it through the grub body. This way the grub body lays flat against the shank of the hook instead of jutting out at an angle. If I could attach pictures I'd show you. Guess I'll scan in the pic and send it to someone who can post it.
Beav

Posted 8/28/2002 5:47 PM (#42898)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


Jason,

Nothing too tricky; what I do is take a 2" grub (MR. Twister, or whatever I have on hand) and begin to thread it about 1/2" or so, then pop the hook out and work the grub up to where the three hooks merge. It doesnt seem to hurt the action of the bucktail.

Posted 8/28/2002 5:52 PM (#42899)
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If this doesn't work, someone else will have to post it[:(]
Beav

Posted 8/28/2002 5:54 PM (#42900)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


HEY!!!! IT WORKED!!!! I"LL BE DAMNED!!!!
Now I can put up those incriminating pictures that I've been saving![:bigsmile:]

Posted 8/28/2002 6:00 PM (#42901)
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Another view

Posted 8/28/2002 6:25 PM (#42902)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


If I use a kalin's mogambo I cut most of it off and hang it from a hook, if I use a 4" mister twister I will attach it to a tru-turn hitch-hiker attached to the hook.

Posted 8/28/2002 6:42 PM (#42903)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


I use regular 2-3" twisters and I rig them the way beav does it. Only I use a thinner bodied grub because I seem to miss a lot of pike on the thicker grubs.

Posted 8/28/2002 7:04 PM (#42904)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


J. L.--I heat shrink a 3" piece of wire with a short bend on each end onto my trailing treble hook. This way I can easily change colors and lengths of grubs. Works well for me, and at times it seems to make a definite difference in fish caught.

Posted 8/28/2002 8:39 PM (#42905)
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ghoti....cool idea! I think that I'll give that a try. Any preference for wire...diameter?length? etc
Sounds alot easier than taking off the hook to change the trailer.
I still learn something new every day.....of course NOT having a memory always makes life a new experience>
Beav

Posted 8/28/2002 9:13 PM (#42906)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


I thread them on a treble and on my spinners run them up into the wire of the bait. I have a bucher tool that bores a whole in the grub and it works great.

My dad loves gapen grubs for his and he actually cuts them open and rewelds them around the hook as if they were made in the mold that way. He does well with a grub with a long curly tail.

Posted 8/28/2002 10:08 PM (#42907)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


I use single hooked spinnerbaits so it's easy to just slip it onto the back hook. The single hooks have a larger spread as well so the grub won't mess the hook gap.

I use the new salt water berkley powerbaits, just need to take a 3/4" peace off first. [:sun:]

Posted 8/28/2002 10:18 PM (#42908)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


I'm surprised nobody said they were injecting scent into their giant grubs. I inject scent into my grubs and also squirt some on the hair if I'm using hair rather then a spinner bait.

Posted 8/28/2002 10:39 PM (#42909)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


Jason, what I’ve done is take a paperclip and straighten one end out. The upper end goes through the split ring and then twist it around itself. The straightened lower end will now hold the tail. Feed it up onto the wire, poke it through and bend the end up. What I like about this, it dose not drop the angle of the treble hook with the added weight. The tail is freer and the treble runs straight. I’ve also put or used blades in place of tails. Smaller nickel or brass blades have worked wonders.[;)]

Posted 8/29/2002 8:54 AM (#42910)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


Wow, great ideas guys. Its amazing how creative musky nuts can be. Thanks Beaver for the awesome pictures, I've been pushing the eye through for quite some time.... but never put the point through the grub to prevent it from sticking off to the side. I will definitely be trying that.

Posted 8/29/2002 2:43 PM (#42911)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


I keep different sizes/colors of tails rigged on what I call "quick-snap" rigs.

I use thin guage solid strand wire. Basically I bend a hook in one end and on the other end I twist on one of those "el'cheapo" snap swivels about the size you use for
walleye fishing or for small minnow baits like shad raps.

Push the grub on, and when you want to add it to a bait or change colors you just snap it on the split ring or loop in the wire above the treble. Doesn't add weight to the hook and works pretty well.

Pre-rigged you can have access to a nice assortment kept in one of them Plano boxes.

Cool picture Ranger...good idea [8)] .....

Smaller twister tails also make a nice addition to 6" Jakes and 5/6" Slammers when twitching...

Mark
Musky Adventures Guide Service
Eau Claire, WI

Posted 8/29/2002 8:04 PM (#42912)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


Beaver- I generaly use any scaps of wire laying around, but prefer thinner(.020- .025). Length is about 3" before the short bends on each end. This leaves 1-1 1/4 " trailing at the hook end. At the eye end of the hook, insert one end of the bent wire through the eye, running the wire in the V of the hook opposite the welded 3rd hook of the treble. Then slide the heat shrink over the eye end and heat. Can easily make a few dozen in about 15 minutes. Hope this helps, if not, e-mail me and I'll send you one.

Posted 8/30/2002 7:57 AM (#42913)
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Thanks. I'll be down in the basement in anybody needs me[;)]
Beav

Posted 1/18/2003 10:33 AM (#42914)
Subject: Grubtails for Bucktails?


Great subject.....worthy of a FLASHBACK!!![:bigsmile:]
Outcast
Posted 3/1/2003 3:33 PM (#62058 - in reply to #4112)
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Hey... I'd like to see the photos that Beaver was trying to post. Any chance of getting them back on this thread? Thanks!
sworrall
Posted 3/2/2003 12:26 PM (#62100 - in reply to #62058)
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Outcast,

The old attachments could not be ported over to the new format. It was something we did have to do, because the old format was not real reliable for photo uploads.

Outcast
Posted 3/2/2003 6:36 PM (#62156 - in reply to #62100)
Subject: RE: Grubtails for Bucktails?




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Beaver, you still have those pictures? If I recall... they showed your trick very clearly and would be helpful for those that have not seen it. Can you please post 'em if you still got 'em? Thanks.

Edited by Outcast 3/2/2003 6:37 PM
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