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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | I saw the post of deep diving trolling cranks but was wondering about deep diving castable cranks. I have Depth Raiders, Ernies, 8" Bagleys but was looking for something that will crank down to 13-15ft range that doesn't need an electric winch to get it back to the boat. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks
Tim
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Location: Freedom, WI | My regular Penatrators get to that range casting. http://www.h2otackle.com/pages/crank-baits/penetrator.php . |
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Location: Appleton | I would say Roger is correct about his baits but I would also look into Pearson Plugs deep minnows. Can't ever have enough crank baits. |
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| ACE Magnum 8" and Standard 6" Wobblin'Flippers, excellent deep diving crankbaits |
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| DDD |
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| Nine inch Grandma? |
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| Legend Plow and Legend Perch are a couple of options. Shoudl easily get to 15 on the cast. |
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| MuskyFix - 7/12/2010 8:18 AM
DDD
second that. DD's as well. |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | Depends on what your idea of a hard pulling crank is. I know guys that think DDD’s pull hard. Equipment also means a lot. Using a C4 with a 7’ rod will be a completely different experience than a Calcutta with a Lamiglas rod.
That said. DDD’s will not get that deep. Not even during a straight crank with no jerks. Perchbaits may get close. H2O Penetrators will get close. Hooker Jrs. will get close but pull/jerk pretty hard. Cisco Kids with the extra large lips (buy the lip and switch out yourself) will get close. You will also need to start thinking about countdowns.
Most cranks won’t dive that deep while casting. The ones that do pull pretty hard. The ones I listed are castable ones. If I think of more I’ll list them.
The Hooker Jr. I throw on my 9’ Lamiglas and Calcutta TE though. I am however jerking/ripping the baits. I also reel them slow, and the faster you reel the harder they will be to crank in. The little extra effort with some of the hard pulling cranks has been worth it though!
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| CiscoKid - 7/12/2010 1:43 PM
That said. DDD’s will not get that deep. Not even during a straight crank with no jerks.
If I'm not mistaken they sink. Often times on deep breaks I'll cast mine out and give it a good 10-15 second count before retrieving. That's going to make it deep than if I were to just cast and retrive right away. Correct? |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | They are not intended to sink. Most of mine have a very slow rise, or are very close to neutral. A couple may have a very, very slow sink. Not enough to get down to 15’ unless I sat and waited for quite some time. I could be wrong as I haven’t bought one in quite some time. Perhaps the newer ones sink more than the original ones that were produced the first couple of years. |
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | The DD and DDD's are suspending. Mine sink real slow only because of the weight of the leader and snap on them. The DDD is suposed to get down to 12' on the cast but none of mine ever have even with 65lb braid. I've got 10" Hookers down where I want but thats a little more effort than I'm really wanting to deal with all day.
Thanks for the replies so far
Tim
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| On a bomb cast I could get the triple d's down 11 ft or a little better. that bait sitting there can call a musky from the depth pretty good.
I also like the deep diving shark baits with the big lip. |
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Location: Chicago | Countdown DR's have a spot in my box |
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| I have been able to bump the triple D pretty hard on the 11 foot line, which makes me think you can get it to 12, never had 12 measured out though when screwing around, just 11. Takes a reasonable cast and a slower retrieve, but that is a very unstable bait and the first rip or jerk and it is headed somewhere else and there goes the depth control.
I think there are better deep divers out there. Though....firstsixfeet.......yuh know?
Ooops, will add this, they are somewhat variable on sinkage, and I had replaced hooks on this particular one, of 3 I had, and it sinks slowly, so there is no rise. The two I sold were about neutral and had lighter hooks.
Edited by firstsixfeet 7/14/2010 5:50 AM
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Location: Ohio | I have snagged my 6" deep diving shad in 22 feet of water casting and it doesn't pull real hard either I use 8 foot xheavy St. Croix rods and 6500 reels. |
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| cd by hi-fin or river run shark cd |
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