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Posted 8/10/2002 10:12 AM (#3226)
Subject: spinnerbait question


here's a question for all you spinnerbait gurus out there. does a spinnerbait have to come thru the water straight in order to be effective? many times the bait is slghtly leaning to one side, not in a perfectly vertical plane. some baits you can tune, but quickly become unadjusted again, so it's a real pain. i know the bass guys say they MUST run perfectly, but do muskys give a darn? personally i think it could be running sideways and they'd probably still crush it- but does it matter? thanks for the input!
steve

Posted 8/10/2002 11:56 AM (#41260)
Subject: spinnerbait question


I've been wondering that myself. One thing I do notice though is that the slower I reel it in the more likely it is to stay straight. They rarely stay straight coming in fast.

Posted 8/10/2002 12:49 PM (#41261)
Subject: spinnerbait question


zach-
excellent points zach, noticed that myself as well. maybe steve or brian worrall can jump in here with some info...
steve

Posted 8/10/2002 1:55 PM (#41262)
Subject: spinnerbait question


to avoid twisting the line: yes, to catch fish: no! I catch pike on spinnerbaits on which I put too large blades on purpose. It's just a matter of not having your spinnerbait turn circles.

Posted 8/10/2002 2:51 PM (#41263)
Subject: spinnerbait question


Zach had a very good point. Spinnerbaits will run to one side for a number of reasons. If the wire is heavy enough you can adjust them by holding the top and bottom of the form and slightly bending it in the oppisite direction that it's tilting. Another cause can be running the boat too fast (while casting) for the bait to keep up. I'm often guilty of this. The way to solve that problem is to either slow down or cast slightly to the front of the boat so that when your spinnerbait is coming in it's even with your rod tip as opposed to coming in from the down current side. One last thing that can cause the bait to tilt that can easilly be changed is the blade size compared to the weight of the lure. A lighter lure with a large blade will be more likely to tilt and spin.

I don't think it matters whether or not the bait is run perfectly straight for fish to hit it. I know some bass anglers who catch fish fluttering and jigging spinnerbaits erratically. I don't have much faith in that type of spinnerbait retrieve but it seems to work.

Brian Worrall

Posted 8/10/2002 3:15 PM (#41264)
Subject: spinnerbait question


I have found that the bend in the leader snap can also affect the way a spinnerbait runs...the more circular the bend, the better it seems to run, especially if the leader is good + straight! [:0]

Posted 8/10/2002 3:19 PM (#41265)
Subject: spinnerbait question


I found that when your jerkbait leader has been bent too much (like a banana shape or so) the spinnerbait doesn't track true. I fish with spinnerbaits most of the time when I do shore fishing. They cast a mile and stay shallow. Recently the 1.5oz ones I made from moore's spinnerbait blanks did very well. I only caught fish on baits with black skirts and hammered brass blades.

Posted 8/10/2002 5:51 PM (#41266)
Subject: spinnerbait question


I've gone through hundreds of bass-sized spinnerbaits in the past fishing for pike. Once they got bent they never seeemed to produce as well, even if you did your best to straighten them. [:((]

Posted 8/10/2002 6:52 PM (#41267)
Subject: spinnerbait question


Ok here is the deal. Yes you may catch fish if your lure is leaning but you also have more chances at missing the fish if you are using single hooks. As you see when the lure is running straight with the blades up well so are the hooks but if the spinnerbait is sideways well so are the hooks. You all should know that most muskies will T-Bone a bait so if the hook is sideways it can easily come right out of the fish's mouth. Pike are a perfect exemple as most are caught with the hook coming right through the top of their mouths.

Now you need solid wired spinnerbaits for tuning. I tune my spinnerbaits all the time to make sure they run right side up as well as changing the angle of the arm for depth. Now a lot of times after getting a fish in the net and the blades get caught in the mesh and the fish spins and makes a mess of the bait, I will easily bend it back to what it should be but naturaly never perfect and my bait run right side up no problem so I am sure it has to do with the thickness of the wire.

I can't tell you just how thick of wire but it is hard to bend. [:sun:]

Posted 8/11/2002 9:24 PM (#41268)
Subject: spinnerbait question


BTTT!!!
c'mon pro staff, anyone have some input? murph, steve w., anybody? trying to learn spinnerbaiting from all angles-
thanks in advance
steve

Posted 8/12/2002 11:42 AM (#41269)
Subject: spinnerbait question


I use spinnerbaits quite a bit, and find tuning to be a serious issue. If the bait is running over on it's side, I get less action. I also miss more fish if the bait is not running straight.

The biggest culprit is a blade too big for the lure weight, or too much skirt/trailer grub body. I want the bait to 'thump' the rod tip, but run true and straight. I also want the bait to track well, running a consistent depth without having to crank like a madman to keep it where I want it, or reel really slowly, either. The bait will also be much more resistant to grabbing slop or weeds if it is running true.

Brian covered the tuning. Pretty simple, if the bait runs one way, turn the blade wire the other by grasping the lead, and twisting the arm from where it is turned at the twist. DON'T bend the wire anywhere else, just rotate the twist one way or the other.

I have clips on all the baits I use to change the blades easily. If the bait is giving me trouble because I added a huge trailer grub, I will downsize the blade one size.

My .02 worth.

Posted 8/12/2002 12:00 PM (#41270)
Subject: spinnerbait question


I have always believed that when a spinnerbait runs crooked you have a better chance to get your blades smashed, instead of your bait. I have seen this..[:knockout:] [:blackeye:]

Also, if your are fishing reeds or other heavy cover, you must keep the blades up, otherwise you will not get it thru the cover.

Just my 2 cents worth!
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