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| Does anybody slow-roll Double Cowgirls and have any luck with it? If so, how do you go about doing that tactic? thanks!
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| Slow down so you are just ticking weed tips now and then if you are over weeds, just enough speed to keep the blades turning and just over the weed tops can be very effective esp after dark. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | had some luck with it more so last year than this year..another thing is to slowwwwwwwwly reel them off the weed edge so they end up in the fishes strike zone for a longer period of time or when the strike zone is smaller...it worked very well last year in Sept/Oct...slowing down sometimes is key w/ these baits...as Bob says esp at nite....a few of the most bone jarring hits came doing this last year at nite w/ fish to 40+ lbs....
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| Nope, doesn't work. Don't try it. Just burn 'em, just like everyone says. All of the time.  |
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| As Bob and Brad mentioned, this is a very, very important presentation in the dark. I'll also add a couple things. The figure-8 should also be done slowly, and should use the biggest, wides turns possible. Big fish don't double back very well on a sharp turn even in daylight, and I think the hairpin turns are even worse in the dark. Also, don't always expect an arm-jolting strike. When slow rolling, the strike often feels like a light tap, or light pressure, or even just a vague sense that something is different. It's sometimes a challenge to be on your toes for these type of bites when the blades are hitting weeds, but musky fishing isn't always easy, is it? |
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| I am actually fishing in 15-20 feet and just wanted to get the baits down deeper.
If I get action on spinner baits, dawgs, and crankbaits down that deep, why not bucktails? ya'know
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | You know it's funny, but you'd think musky anglers would have alot of patience by nature, yet these slower techniques are extremely underused, for, I think lack of patience. I personally have to FORCE myself to slow down and it's hard for me to do. Last year I boated two fish after announcing to my partner, "Last cast". Both times I was NOT wanting to get off the water, so I did what I could to make my last cast go on forever....by SLOWLY bringing in my 10s at a painstakingly slow pace and you can guess what happened. Patience...never been a fan of creepers or Wobblers b/c I lack the "patience". Weird. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I had a follow from a mid 40's today on a slow rolled 10. But that was after everything else in the box hadn't worked that well. She came in low and slow, and I was dragging that thing so slow it was coming in at an angle like the Blue Angels doing a stall-speed pass at an air show. |
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| If you want to run deeper you can add weight very easily, just use a bell sinker on the front Hook splitring. Another key is if something feels "different" simply speed up a few turns of the reel, if you feel weight set the hook, if not no loss and the speed increase may just trigger a fish that just gave your lure a flyby.
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| i do this all the time with success. Burning them all day is alot of work. i try to position the blades by using the rod tip and finding the right speed to reel. there are times where you can walk the bait right over logs, weeks, rocks and let it dive a foot or two on the backside just by using the rod. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Slow roll with a quick snap once in a while is a good one too at night. Pumps those big blades out a little more and will change the vibration under water...IMO making the musky/pike "think" the fish is in "escape" mode...
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Cowboyhannah - 12/1/2009 10:16 PM
Patience...never been a fan of creepers or Wobblers b/c I lack the "patience". Weird.
I'm in the same boat. I have to tell myself every cast to SLOW DOWN!! I absolutely love the sound/action of a Hawg Wobbler, but never have the patience to throw it more than a dozen times each time I'm out. |
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| I have had a lot of action slow rolling double 10's and 13's this year over huge basins of sandgrass in the 18 to 30 foot range. If there is wind I like to drift over these areas. When drifting cast with the wind so your baits will cast farther which will get the bait deeper. Make sure you do a figure 8 after every cast, 50% of the fish I have caught using this tactic have hit in the 8. |
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| If I want to slow roll double 10s, I switch to a spinnerbait. Either one of Kevin Cochran's Musky Bling double 10 spinnerbaits or, more recently, a 3 oz Rad Dog converted to a single 13 or double 10. The spinnerbaits give me the flexibility to tick the weed tops or hug the bottom.
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Location: north central wisconsin | They are not all created equal and each one(or some) has a slightly different 'grind' or 'whistle' as the blades/clevis rub on the shaft(easy to hear on a quiet night without wife in boat). A certain slow speed will produce the most consistant vibration and or sound, which you will hear and know what to listen for over time. Once you get some action, you'll remember the sound, feel, drag of the lure that is working that night. If you are really really really lucky, you might catch 40lbers like bn. Cast, repete, maybe catch another, cast, stop, take swig of Pabst, reel in again.
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Location: Racine, Wi | Reef Hawg - 12/3/2009 10:06 PM
Cast, repete, maybe catch another, cast, stop, take swig of Pabst, reel in again.
We have to fish together some time Jason, a man after my own heart. lol
I like to use heavier dbl 10's after dark to help keep them deeper at slower speeds. I tied a bunch up this year and one in particular had some very good results slow rolling after dark as well as early morning or dark days. After getting a few fish slow rolling, the patience factor goes away and it's easier to slow down.
Paul made a good point as well in making slow, wide turns in the 8. |
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| Have caught 3 fish (all on pewaukee) trolling cowgirls. 2 were behind downrigger balls cause ny buddy was too lazy to take his lake Mich gear off. We marked suspended fish 13' down over 22' of water and both fish were very close to 40". You know that the blades are still turning because they create soo much drag that an 8lb ball will be pulled at least a few feet from the bach of the boat. The 3rd fish camr on the east end short lining in the prop wash. It was pretty neat actually because it was 1 in the afternoon on the 4th of July without a cloud in 7 feet of water with pontoon partiers everywhere and only about 8 feet of line out. I dont think you can go much faster than 2.2 to 2.7 mph because even if you have an 8 foot rod with the first 3 feet in the water cowgirls still seem to want to rise up. |
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| Johnny_B - 12/3/2009 9:31 PM
If I want to slow roll double 10s, I switch to a spinnerbait. Either one of Kevin Cochran's Musky Bling double 10 spinnerbaits or, more recently, a 3 oz Rad Dog converted to a single 13 or double 10. The spinnerbaits give me the flexibility to tick the weed tops or hug the bottom.
Agreed! Big Blade Bucktails do work for slow rolling, but I have less "wasted casts" when hugging the bottom, by staying more weed and snag free with double 10 spinnerbaits. The Musky Bling's work well. never tried the converted Rad Dog, but sounds like a good idea. Another great choice is the 3 oz. SST from MM Baits. Originally built to be speed trolled in excess of 7 mph, it also shines as a slow roller!
To ensure a slow retrieve, I just put away the Trinidad and use a more conventional reel. It's a huge difference in feel and serves as a constant reminder to keep the speed down. |
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