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Location: Elk River MN | For those of you at The MI meeting the other night, did the CO touch on Quick strike rigs? Do you need a spinner or beads for a quick strike rig to be legal? |
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Location: Mendota Heights, MN | I was not at the meeting the other night, but I can tell you what my understanding of the situation is. As far as I can determine you MUST have some type of spinner attached to the rig or it will be illegal in MN. I buy several large blades and split rings. I put one split ring on the blade, and then take the split ring and put it on the leader above the hooks, then I put the wire leader back halfway through the split ring so it is sandwiched by the split ring tension. Then i slide this up and down the leader to wherever I want it to be. This I believe make the rig legal.
Good Luck,
Steve |
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| That was my understanding as well but from the other post the CO said this:
No beads or spinners are required to make Quick Strike rigs "legal".
A Conservation Officer from the Metro area will be fielding questions o
n this subject at the Twin Cities MI meeting Tuesday night in Bloomington. In case you cannot make it to the meeting, here's a precursor to what you would hear in a message sent to me from them yesterday.
Suckers up to 12" can be sold (by licensed bait dealers/retailers of course), transported and used by anglers in numbers less than 24 dozen. Suckers over 12" and parts of suckers and other rough fish aside from carp can be used if harvested from the same body of water as they are being used as bait in. Suckers over 12" are not considered minnows and cannot be transported live beyond the body of water in which they were caught. An angler may have up to three single or multiple hooks on a line that are either inserted into the live bait or within three inches of the live bait, and only one live bait may be used on a line. Live bait includes bait that is alive, dead, or preserved. An angler may have one additional single or multiple hook on a line with an artificial bait as long as the additional hook is within three inches of the artificial bait. Artificial bait includes jigs, artificial flies, and flashing spoons. Quick strike rigs and stinger hook arrangements meeting the requirements above may be used. No beads or spinners are required to make Quick Strike rigs "legal".
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| I don't know why quick-strike rigs would be illegal as they are better for the fish than the alternatives, but that paragraph from the CO flies in the face of what is actually in the regs. Not sure where he got the language he used. See page 9 of the regs, relevant part pasted below.
Angling Methods
• Anglers may use only one hook. An artificial lure is considered one hook.
A treble hook, when not part of an artificial lure, is considered three hooks
and is not legal. The exception is that three artificial flies may be used
when angling for trout, crappie, sunfish, and rock bass.
This law is pretty stupid considering all a person has to do to make something an artificial lure is put a spinner on the front of it, but technically I think Quick-strike rigs are illegal. That said, I'll take the ticket and fight it in court rather than use something else. |
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Location: Mendota Heights, MN | So am I to assume from this that we can only get 12" suckers at bait shops now? If so that is pretty lame. Those were always the rejects from my point of view. Always have had better luck on big ones 17-20" ers.
So i wonder then if the rig is legal because a 12" (mini) sucker is now considered a minnow?
If the sucker is over 12" then the rig is no longer legal w/o a blade etc????
Goofy DNR rules really. We all want to follow the rules, why do they have to make them so difficult to understand?!!
Steve |
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Location: Twin Cities | Never mind, HUGE waste of time.
Edited by JRedig 10/21/2009 1:43 PM
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | The rules concerning quick strike rigs were derived back before they were used for muskies. The intent originally was to keep people from using trebles on rigs like to from snagging salmon/trout. They "should" be legal starting in the 2010/2011 fishing year. Stay tuned to your regulation book.
To answer the ? you do need to make your rig into a "lure" per the comments above.
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| Shawn (Treats) Have there been conversations about changing the silly rules regarding suckers. A sucker is a minnow untill it is 12 inches then it is a fish. and my favorite you can buy suckers biger than 12 inches you can use suckers biger than 12 inches BUT you can not bring them to the lake. |
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