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Message Subject: My #*^@ net sank!
reelman
Posted 7/30/2009 4:17 PM (#391411 - in reply to #391292)
Subject: Re: My #*^@ net sank!




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Brian, Nope I don't work for a net company and I agree that it's not easy to pay $150+ for a net but realisticly if they could be made at this quality and sold for a profit at say $75 I would think that there would be other compnaies lining up to take your $75. One thing that is great about this country is that if it can be made cheaper with the same quality someone will do it and undercut the guy who are charging more.

Another thing to consider in the price of these huge nets is shipping. The cost of shipping them from the manufacture to the store or wholesaler is a major cost in these nets I bet. Kind of like everybody who thinks they can make a treestand for bowhunting less than what's on the market until they try to get insurance on it!
sworrall
Posted 7/30/2009 4:33 PM (#391417 - in reply to #391292)
Subject: Re: My #*^@ net sank!





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
reelman, exactly.

No one builds a net expecting folks to drop them in the water. I work with two net companies, Frabill and Stowmaster, and have a pretty good idea what it takes to get the tooling made, the parts produced, the netting made and dipped, and all of that assembled. I don't know if either would be all that interested in adding the cost to retail of making a floating model, I'll ask. It's more likely an aftermarket or add on float could be used.

One has to add an advertising/promotional budget, discounts that will be demanded by big retailers, and more including the shipping you talked about. Then add the % the store has to get to give up the shelf space and keep folks hired and the lights on, and you have the retail price we all pay.

Sure, you can buy a cheaper net. I wouldn't though, in nets you get what you pay for.
reelman
Posted 7/30/2009 5:23 PM (#391426 - in reply to #391292)
Subject: Re: My #*^@ net sank!




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Sworrall, and let's not forget the 11% Dingle/Johnson excise tax that's added to all fishign and marine related goods.
Landry
Posted 7/30/2009 5:56 PM (#391429 - in reply to #391410)
Subject: Re: My #*^@ net sank!




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i like the long stick and hook retrieval idea!!! I am going to try that tomoroow to see if I can get my 250$$$ spinning outfit that my daughter casted into the lake tonight!!! Made me sick to my stomach. I loved that rod!!!!!!!!
Halfpint
Posted 7/30/2009 6:16 PM (#391437 - in reply to #391292)
Subject: RE: My #*^@ net sank!


A couple years ago, I was fishing with my brother when he hooked up with a decent fish. I grabbed his stowmaster, opened it, and extended the handle super quick. Of course, when I went to net the fish, I realized that the extendable part of the handle was no longer there. Apparently, it went over the side of the boat when I was enthusiastically getting the net...the pushbutton doesn't engage the back half when you open it up too quickly on those stowmasters. It ended up working out pretty well though. The guys at stowmaster sold me a replacement handle for next to nothing. Great customer service with those guys. My brother was super PO'ed at me for a couple days though. HA!
firstsixfeet
Posted 7/30/2009 9:14 PM (#391476 - in reply to #391292)
Subject: Re: My #*^@ net sank!




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Rod and reels float if you have a one piece rod and a reasonably light reel. Fair amount of air trapped in those buggers.

Nets don't float. I have had several "net" experiences over the years.

BTW, prescription sunglasses don't float either. Dog...
Cutt'em all Jack
Posted 7/30/2009 10:57 PM (#391498 - in reply to #391292)
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Location: Slippery Rock, PA
I tie a small rope onto mine with a dog leash clip on the end. Once a fish is netted, I clip the leash onto the opposite side cleat which holds the net in place while I work on the fish. Keeps the net in the boat and keeps both hands free.
Landry
Posted 7/31/2009 5:51 PM (#391630 - in reply to #391498)
Subject: Re: My #*^@ net sank!




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i tried the big pipe with a hook on it idea and got my rod back this morning. Thanks for the idea. I had written it off!
archerynut36
Posted 7/31/2009 8:05 PM (#391658 - in reply to #391292)
Subject: Re: My #*^@ net sank!





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Location: syracuse indiana
congrats landry . i have had clients knock a rod into the lake once.. lucly we were in 6 ft ov water and i stucka bulldawg on and ran the bottom with it and got it back in 2 swipes...bill i have filled the first frabill i had with foam but my 2 ones i have now i havent done it yet(worlds biggest procrastinator) a big kahuna and a pwer catch kwic kradle(pete maina design) but i need to get them filled...bill
PIKEMASTER
Posted 8/6/2009 8:36 AM (#392679 - in reply to #391292)
Subject: RE: My #*^@ net sank!





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Here is something that will work, slip it on to the handle. CK it out

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jah1317
Posted 8/6/2009 9:05 AM (#392688 - in reply to #391292)
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Brian,

I did make my own net, it's cheap, however mine is not aluminum for the net hoop........ granted it is a prototype but it is not made of aluminum, I am pretty sure that is the expensive part of it all making it strong and light! However now I will make sure mine floats..........


Jacob
muskiewhored
Posted 8/6/2009 10:21 AM (#392698 - in reply to #391292)
Subject: RE: My #*^@ net sank!





Location: Oswego, IL
Something you can easily do at home for cheaper than a manufacture will do it for. Look, they these silly Noodles kids play with in a pool there are about 4-6ft tall and 4" diameter, all you have to do it take a peice and start slightly bigger than what you think you will need just to see how much it takes to float, and WOW now you have a floating net for a few bucks. Im sure you can find any color as well, and its removable! $3 at Poolcenter.com





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Plunker
Posted 8/6/2009 1:43 PM (#392730 - in reply to #391292)
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I wonder if filling a net with foam would actually stop it from sinking. I watched a net fall out of the boat on the Mississippi this spring. Being right behind him I hammered down and tried to get to it but no luck. It was maybe grabable for 2 seconds after it went over.

Now my theory is that nets have a end cap over the end of the handle, now water will get through there, but it will take a little time. The hoop ends usually have some sort of cap as well so same thing there, it's going to take a little time for the water to seep in. Now if everyones nets are sinking almost immediately there can't be very much time for water to actually get in the net. That means the net is heavier than the air inside that is trying to float it. Now stay with me here, foam is less buoyant than air, that's a FACT. So all you're doing by putting spray foam in your net handle/hoop is getting it to sink faster.
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