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Location: Iowa | I finally got some more pics. What do you guys think? He said he put a little fiberglass repair on the bottom, it never leaked, he just wanted to fill it back in. The side 2 marks I'm not sure about either, it's kind of bubbled up, then cracked out, looks like just the gel coat though. The 2 on the bottom, well I have no idea what to think, does it look structural or not, I'm not sure how thick these things are built. Thanks for all opinions.
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Location: Kodiak, AK | How bad are they? Are there pieces of gel coat that have cracked and fallen off, or are they just hairline fractures? Stress causes them. The boat wants to flex, but the gel coat doesn't. If they're bad enough, they'll call for stop drilling and then a proper gel/glass repair. I've got a few on my boat, and they're small enough that it'd cause more of a mess to repair them than to just leave them. |
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Location: Iowa | Most are smaller hairline like fractures, there are a couple that actually fell off, almost looks like it may have bouced on a rock or something at that point on one side. Other than a few of these, the boat is in good shape, but if repairs will be too costly, I'll keep looking. The small ones I didn't figure were a big deal, just not sure if I should worry about the spots where it actually came off. Probably about 1/2 inch by 2 inches is the largest, and there's a couple smaller ones.
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Location: N.FIB | what kind of problems down the road will cracks like those cause to a boat,how much to get something like that fixed.how bad does it have to get before it`s not fixable |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Most gel chips are caused by impacts, and if the cracks radiate from the point where the damage is, that's the cause. Clear gel is not a big problem to patch up, and a mix of polyflake an be placed in the areas where the damage is if needed. If you want it done like new, it'll cost some money, but if you want it solid and acceptable, contact me via phone and I'll get the information to you you need to make a decision.
I'd bet on a boat that age, the damage you see is the extent of what you can expect, and it's probably not a structural issue at all. |
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Location: N.FIB | I`m just wondering since I`ve been looking at used boats and would like to go with a fiberglass |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Got any pics? Are the chips and missing pieces down the the glass lay up? As long as the structural glass is intact, and these cracks aren't all over the place, I'd say you're OK. But my boat for example, Sled used the heck out of it, and there wasn't any gel coat missing when I bougnt it...well maybe a chip or two on the bottom, but no big chips and cracks. If it's banged up, you may want to look at another boat. |
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Location: Iowa | Pics finally |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Number 1 is an impact craze, not as big deal and can be repaired, but you will be able to tell a reapair has been made. The rest are easy fixes. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Fer sher impact on the first one. It looks like that boat has been used! The good thing about fiberglass is that it's like metal in that it's always repairable- depending on how much you want to put into it- and in the hands of someone that knows what they're doing, the repair will be as good as new.
I agree with Steve, that what you have there doesn't look too severe, but does need to be addressed. |
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Location: Iowa | Thanks guys. If I decide to get this boat, I'll give you a call Steve, to get an idea of what or how to go about the repairs. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I gotta be honest, even though it's repairable, if there's other boats out there, I'd maybe keep looking. Unless the boat is just dirt cheap, or it's the color you have to have or has the motor you want, I'd hate to buy a boat and then first thing is having to make repairs to it. Make sure the price reflects the damage to the glass because that's not normal wear and tear. That's damage. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | That boat has a bit of rock damage - the bottom hull shot tells the story. "She's been rode hard & put up wet!" . She needs a complete gel coat rework. The price would have to be pretty attractive to offset the cost of gel coat repair. You definitely shouldn't put her in the water without repairs. If water gets ingress into the glass you will get blisters/bubbles.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It'd take me less than a day in the driveway to repair the stuff I see, just wouldn't be 'perfect' cosmetically. |
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Location: Iowa | I'm not looking for a brand new boat, don't really care if it's pretty, just safe and fishable. I'm looking around a little bit yet, but thanks for all the replies so far! |
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| I've got a spot with some damage similar to that in the first picture here. Mostly just a spider web from an impact. There are a couple spots where some chips are starting to peel up and/or fall out.
I'm not interested in it looking brand new, and I would like to keep it on the cheaper side so I'm looking at a home repair.
How do I go about fixing it?
Can I get by with just sanding everything out smooth and laying down a few coats of clear to bond everything together?
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| There is some stuff called Marine-Tex that is suppose to be the end all to easy fiberglass repair. I have not used it but did some research on it. |
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| Is there anything out there that I don't have to paint after I put it on?
The spot is mostly just a big spiderweb. It seems like something clear that would seep into the cracks would do the trick.
Obviously, I don't know anything about fiberglass/gelcoat repair so maybe not |
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| Marine Tex is great stuff. I am redoing an old Lund and have used to fill in screw holes(above the water line) wet sand smooth and paint it looks like new. Not sure how that will work, but at the same time I don't see anything that isn't a relatively simple repair. However, as stated above, unless the price of this thing reflects the repair and time investment on your part I would move on to the next one.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Clear gel coat will do it. Tape repairs on the small areas, and spraying it on the larger after prep. Then buff. Not BRAND new, but serviceable. |
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| sworrall - 8/27/2010 9:00 AM
Clear gel coat will do it. Tape repairs on the small areas, and spraying it on the larger after prep. Then buff. Not BRAND new, but serviceable.
Steve -
From what I have been reading during my research you need to bevel out the bad area for preparation. Is that true in the case of this first picture? Would I need to bevel out each of the long cracks prior to spraying? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Yes, wet sanding almost completely through the clear is the process, and a tiny hole drilled at the end of each LARGE crack (just through the clear to stop the crack from wandering more) will help. |
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Location: Iowa | Wow, I forgot about even looking at the boat pictured above. I loved the size and layout of that tuffy, but ended up going with a 681VS without any damage for a little more $. |
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