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Gander Mt Guide
Posted 2/16/2009 11:49 AM (#360888 - in reply to #360882)
Subject: Re: Trolling on WI-MI Border Lakes?





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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI
Read the Michigan Boundry waters regs and tell me what they say please.
or better yet, could you please post the Michigan regs page where it states you can troll ALL Michigan and Wisconsin Vilas County Boundry waters?

Edited by Gander Mt Guide 2/16/2009 12:32 PM
JimtenHaaf
Posted 2/18/2009 1:54 PM (#361344 - in reply to #356639)
Subject: Re: Trolling on WI-MI Border Lakes?





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Location: Grand Rapids, MI
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/MI-WI-boundary-waters_229790_...

"Where the regulations of MI and WI differ, persons shall comply with the regulations of the state in whose territorial waters they are fishing." Meaning - If WI says "no power trolling" and MI says "yes", the person shall comply with the state of whose waters they are fishing. Troll MI, don't troll WI.

"You may fish from a motorboat with the motor running or a sailboat under sail only on the MI portions of the waters of LVD in Gogebic Co." Meaning - You can only motor troll in the MI portions of LVD. You may NOT troll the WI portion.

"THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS SUPERSEDE ALL OTHERS GOVERNING FISHING ON MICHIGAN\WISCONSIN BOUNDARY WATERS THAT IN ANY WAY CONFLICT. .... CRAYFISH MAY NOT BE POSSESSED OR USED FOR BAIT ON MI-WI BOUNDARY WATERS." Michigan allows for use of crayfish on all other lakes. But it says PLAIN AS DAY you may not use them on the boundary lakes. Thus, THIS RULE SUPERCEDES ALL OTHER RULES.

In conclusion, NOWHERE in the special regulations does it say "NO MOTOR TROLLING IN MI WATERS". That means, that you must "COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS OF THE STATE IN WHOSE TERRITORIAL WATERS [you] ARE FISHING".
Gander Mt Guide
Posted 2/19/2009 6:59 PM (#361648 - in reply to #356639)
Subject: Re: Trolling on WI-MI Border Lakes?





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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI
"" Meaning - If WI says "no power trolling" and MI says "yes", the person shall comply with the state of whose waters they are fishing. Troll MI, don't troll WI.". Huh? I don't see that written anywhere.......they state that you have to follow the regs of Michigan's Boundry waters, NOT Michigan's inland waters regs. They state clearly that you must follow the rules of Wis, if in Wis and you must follow Michigan's regs if in Michigan and when you do...you must follow the boundry water's regs.

""You may fish from a motorboat with the motor running or a sailboat under sail only on the MI portions of the waters of LVD in Gogebic Co." Meaning - You can only motor troll in the MI portions of LVD. You may NOT troll the WI portion."

Uhm, nice try. The regs are telling what boundry waters you can troll..LVD...why wouldn't they do the same thing FOR ALL BOUNDRY LAKES, not just LVD? "...only on the MI portions of the waters of LVD in Gogebic Co."....See that word "ONLY"....what does ONLY mean? Wouldn't it be easier for them to say...."Trolling permitted on Michigan side"?? They don't.

I think it would have been easy for them to repeat the regs on Michigan's inland trolling...but they don't. They're telling you what water is THE ONLY water you can troll. Why? I asked a WDNR warden what he thought about this over 5 years ago....his response (at least I got one from him, unlike LT Robson) was basically this. Michigan wardens don't have Michigan access to lakes like Tenderfoot, they won't patrol waters where their waters are land locked by Wisconsin, LVD has a Michigan launch, thus the regs on trolling there. Its an enforcement nightmare to try to watch all those slivers of Michigan waters, it was easier for them to ban trolling on all but LVD.

Edited by Gander Mt Guide 2/19/2009 7:17 PM
Les Kipper
Posted 2/19/2009 7:57 PM (#361668 - in reply to #356639)
Subject: RE: Trolling on WI-MI Border Lakes?


I agree with Jim. Nowhere does it say that you CAN'T troll in MI. So, I'm going to troll in MI whenever I go to any of those lakes. And then I'll watch you (GMG) struggling to troll with your oars! We still have the 5th amendment right?
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