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Message Subject: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados
dfree
Posted 12/1/2008 8:46 AM (#347429)
Subject: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados




Posts: 165


Location: Minnesota
Is there any functional (fish catching) difference btw the two colorado sizes. I realize that 40s are heavier, thus thicker and take a bit more to get turning, and better for rolling deep.

thanks in advance

dan
bn
Posted 12/1/2008 8:50 AM (#347431 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados


yes, imo you need to have and use both as they both can do different things ...
the thinner ones imo are better over weeds and burning/bulging. thicker ones go just a touch deeper with the same retrieve and can shine when fish don't want to come that far up to hit the thinner ones. the thick ones can be slow rolled deep and at times that is a great thing to do. there are suttle differences in them and i have seen times when you have to have both and use them correctly to put fish in the boat...just like any bait, learn the how, when, where and you'll put more fish in the boat
Marc J
Posted 12/1/2008 8:53 AM (#347433 - in reply to #347431)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados





Posts: 313


Location: On your favorite spot
the thicker ones will spin closer to the wireshaft
esox50
Posted 12/1/2008 9:50 AM (#347441 - in reply to #347433)
Subject: Re: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados





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Agreed. The thicker .40s are better slow rolled or for an overall deeper presentation. We had a day this fall where slow rolling double 10s was the only way to move fish. Baits fished high in the water column (1-3') were essentially ignored, while baits fished down (4-7') moved fish and brought them up to where they would eat on the 8. The same thickness blades are, IMO, not as good over weeds as Brad mentioned above. Since they spin closer the shaft they don't have quite the same lift as the .25s which can be problematic of you're fishing through stuff right at the surface. Nevertheless, it seems like the .25s get bent a little more easily (but can be re-bent so that's not a huge issue, IMO) than the .40s. Both have a time and place.
Tackle Industries
Posted 12/1/2008 10:46 AM (#347455 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: Re: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados





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Location: Land of the Musky
0.4 won't warp but he 0.24s will. 0.24 will start up eaier adn ride higher and spin a little faster. You can burn the 0.4 fater before they break the surface too but of course you can use the 0.24s to slow retrieve in and still keep them high. Both have a time and place and they overlap uses also.
dtaijo174
Posted 12/1/2008 5:07 PM (#347535 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: Re: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados





Posts: 1169


Location: New Hope MN
The .040 are spendy... I just add a little extra weight if i want a deeper bait. It can screw up the angle a little bit (tail heavy).
mota
Posted 12/1/2008 5:38 PM (#347541 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados


personally i think .40 dont worth the price,want something that work deeper pit a bigger egge sinker and problem solved
knooter
Posted 12/2/2008 11:45 PM (#347752 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: Re: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
The thin blades don't last long if you're fishing them fast. They warp pretty easily, and while you can bend them back into shape a few times, eventually they need to get replaced. The .040's don't seem to bend. While they last longer, they shouldn't be the only ones you use. Like everyone has said, they both have their place. I actually found that the blades that were bent a bit near the clevis would pull less, and required more speed to spin. This turned into six nice fish for me this September. Didn't catch any on the heavier blades until October, when they were looking for a slower moving bait. You absolutely need a few of each.
mercmech
Posted 12/14/2008 2:34 PM (#349744 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados




Posts: 49


Location: St. Croix River, Mille Lacs,
WOW what a posting! I have been manufacturing, and testing for over 6 years as well as running spinnerbaits & bucktails for over thirtteen years. I have never had a .025 blade warp! With the rare exception of denting it off a dock or rock, on a not-so-good cast. We use exclusively .025 blades just for that reason. But as someone else said .040 blades are heavier, run deeper and are able to slow roll a slight bit more. I am hoping that people aren't getting confused over the thinner yet blades like the .015 and the .018 as they do warp and become out of tune. More importantly the clevis that holds the blade to the wire has to be sized correctly. Many many baits come with undersized clevis's. This can be the difference between getting a fish's attention or a pointless cast as the blade will not spin or require the agler to "jerk" the bait in order to start the blade spinning.

My ten-sense
Guest
Posted 12/14/2008 2:58 PM (#349748 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados


I can warp a .25 blade in just over a weeks worth of fishing. I have done it many times...if the bait is the HOT bait for a week straight and somebody is throwing it everyday, hours and hours and hours a day, after about a week or so the blades will be warped and flatted out. I have also seen it done in less than a weeks worth of fishing.

They are great blades but they can easily be flatted out and warped.
mota
Posted 12/14/2008 3:01 PM (#349750 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: Re: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados


yeah that always happen when the blade move into the prop.......
i think you need a better source of .25
Guest
Posted 12/14/2008 3:19 PM (#349753 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados


What are you referring to????

I am talking about blades that come on Cowgirls and DC10's...the actual bait, not a homemade version. Warping blades happens alot.
Guest
Posted 12/14/2008 3:21 PM (#349755 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados


What are you referring to?

I can have a brand new cowgirl or DC10 and warp the blades in a weeks worth of fishing. These are not "cheap" blades or different blades. It happens all the time.
guest
Posted 12/14/2008 4:28 PM (#349771 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados


they ain't .25's then......
Guest
Posted 12/14/2008 4:34 PM (#349772 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: RE: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados


So you are going to tell me that cowgirls and dc10's aren't .25's then????

Interesting. Again, I am not talking about homemade baits, I am talking about straight out the package COWGIRLS and DC10's.
knooter
Posted 12/14/2008 7:35 PM (#349802 - in reply to #347429)
Subject: Re: difference btw .40 and .25 colorados




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
The .025 blades only seem to warp when rigged on clevises, like on bucktails. Not on spinnerbaits with a swivel on the blade. They will bend just below the hole and along the length of the blade, leaving more of a cup from side to side. I went through at least a dozen blades this summer just fishing them at normal retrieve speeds. Bending them back only works for a little while. That's been my experience.
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