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| So....in your high and mighty opinions, are you going to tell me that sight fishing trout in the Green is not sporting? How about Bonefish on the flats? What about a permit tailing in slack water?
What a crock. A fish is a fish, is a fish, is a fish. Doesn't matter one iota whether it was caught in 50' of water or 5 feet of water. I've sight fished muskies on conventional tackle, and on a flyrod, and it's a riot. You still have to have the right bait, and the right presentation to get them to eat. Anyone that says different should try it sometime, see how successful you are at "shooting fish in a barrel." |
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| For those interested in rescuing these fish: 11am on Saturday, September 27
Volunteers are needed! Please bring musky nets and long coolers.
Meet on shabbona grove road at the archery area by the bridge, which is below the dam.
If you have any questions, please contact Duane @ 815-761-5182
The creek is about 3 yards wide and very shallow. The deepest area is directly under the spillway with the exception of a few pools downstream. Its probably fun to fish here and am guilty of going down there ONCE about 6 years just to check it out, but I'll never go back no matter how many fish are trapped unless I'm there to return them back to the lake with the club that puts the rescue together. If you do decide to fish here, please try and get them back to the lake.
Edited by Reelwise 9/25/2008 11:45 AM
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| I am guessing the high moral opinion post was directed at me, I'll take the bait.
Site fishing for trout is by no means what I am speaking of here, provided the fly is displayed in a manner in which the fish opens it's mouth and actually bites the fly.
..on the other hand, rigging up a leader with more then one hook (I've seen as many as 4 on one leader) then repeatedly cast at a fish 15' away from you and set the hook with a downward and downstream rip is what I am talking about.
If you get a fish to eat great, if you call hooking up anyway you can get the hooks into a fish, be it the outside of the mouth on a good floss job, the back or the tail is what I am referring to. So please do not try to correlate terrestrial trout with a musky stuck under a spillway.
To each their own. But plugging in your fish to 3 separate internet sites about the conquest of hooking up fish in a barrel, then coming back looking for support?
Simple question. Why did you mention going to a lake fishing in the post that started all of this if you didn't think anything was wrong with fishing under the spillway? |
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Location: deep in the slop | Whoolligan - 9/25/2008 8:26 AM
So....in your high and mighty opinions, are you going to tell me that sight fishing trout in the Green is not sporting? How about Bonefish on the flats? What about a permit tailing in slack water?
What a crock. A fish is a fish, is a fish, is a fish. Doesn't matter one iota whether it was caught in 50' of water or 5 feet of water. I've sight fished muskies on conventional tackle, and on a flyrod, and it's a riot. You still have to have the right bait, and the right presentation to get them to eat. Anyone that says different should try it sometime, see how successful you are at "shooting fish in a barrel."
I cannot agree with this more. the first technique i considered myself to be good at was sight fishing. I think my average is about 1/35-40 fish spotted. Granted this is in a lake, but a spooked fish is a spooked fish whether it is in Mille Lacs or my bathtub.
On a lighter note, we need to cut this young man a break. I am sure we can all look back on moments in our past where we were looked at in a similar fashion. Empathy anyone???? |
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Location: Bemidji/Cass Lake | Wow. Nice pics Brandon. Ignore the comments here. They are just that. No respectable outdoorsman would ever rip on another for doing things the right way. These "guys" that type stuff like that DONT FISH. And if they do occasionally, it's a poor effort at best. Anybody who cares about education puts everything moving in a positive direction and will actually say something containing some value.
There is nothing wrong with sight fishing (if you even were). If you do post on these boards you will read the words "I assume...." over, and over, and over again. You'll come to realize what is worth reading based on who wrote it.
Muskie fishing has gotten easier over the last 10yrs or so. The fact that this has happened has attracted plenty of disrespectful lowlifes. A lot of these "guys" don't know anything about the sport, let alone the history, yet they somehow think they have to comment negatively on everything. They are only it for themselves. It's a tough sport to have as a hobby to begin with. You gotta be in a different state of mind than a normal angler. But like any other thing, people can find a way to wreck it.
Later
Sackett
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| There's more to this story . If you follow threads on one of the 5 message boards that he's currently working, our young angler tried to pass it off as some great fishing day "on Shabbona"--which it was not. He was hoping for lots of pats on the back. He even photoshopped pictures to make it appear that way. Now that he's exposed, he plays the "victim" card and trolls for sympathy.
What worries me is that here are people that are defending this type of behavior. I guess that's why we have so much trouble conserving musky fisheries. I hope it's because these people don't know the whole story.
Bottom line: this is not a "creek" it's a tiny spillway. The fish don't "live" there--they are swept in during periods of high water. They have no where to go and are basically trapped with limited food and oxygen. This is not like pursuing fish in their natural environment, where the fish have the advantage. It's completely different than "sight fishing" for bonefish or muskies in a lake or river, so to compare it to those situations is completely wrong.
What's more, these fish are supposed to be put back in the lake they came from. How is that supposed to happen if everyone jumps in and catches them and puts them at risk. I find it very ironic that this guy now wants to help move the fish back.
Maybe it's not illegal, but it seems pretty shady to me. And it's definitely not the story he tried to feed at first.
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Location: West Chicago, IL | Seabass, you took the words right out of my mouth. Most folks on this site haven't seen the other message boards and the "other" story he tried to pass off about how he figured out a pattern on the lake. Sorry, no sympathy here and I'm a really sympathetic guy. |
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| Reelwise - 9/25/2008 11:43 AM
For those interested in rescuing these fish: 11am on Saturday, September 27
Volunteers are needed! Please bring musky nets and long coolers.
Meet on shabbona grove road at the archery area by the bridge, which is below the dam.
and that is that.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Can I have 'the last word' here?
Word. 
I am in North Dakota, with no fishing rod. It's gonna be 80 degrees today. I'd fish in a water glass at this point. |
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