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4amuskie![]() |
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Over the long run you are right but there are ways. Its either you put up with the price and adapt or you give up and sell. I aint ready for that so if it means a few less stops at Mcd's or whatever I'm gonna do it. Whats catching a 50 inch muskie worth or spending a week chasin on LOTW?? Its priceless and if we let this stop us its over. Do it while you can and enjoy the most. You cant put a price on it and if you do it wasnt worth it in the first place!!! | |||
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Posts: 2361 | 4amuskie - 6/26/2008 6:47 PM Its not hard to justify the cost.???? Last year it was about .60 or .70 cents a gallon less. If you drive 1000 miles and get 10 miles a gallon pullin then fuel cost you an extra $70 dollars for your trip. Usually you have two guys to split it so we are talking $35 each. If you burn 50 gallons in your boat for the week thats an extra $35 divided by two is $17.50. Total extra cost from last year is $52.50. each. People will stay home for this??? Even if you go back two years when gas was $2.40 a gallon you are talking an extra $105 extra for a week each. Pleeease!!! Lets go fishing guys. Maybe pick up a third guy in the boat buy please dont stop fishin. Your math is wrong here for most of us, don't know where you are getting gas that is only .60 to .70 more. I figure $140-$170 added straight on to my gas price for the trip up north. Now that in itself is livable, but I also have two kids in college, one at UK(double digit inflation every year since 2000), and another at a private school, and both those kids drive vehicles I have to gas up, and it's that much more for every gallon there. I also drive to work and it is that much more per gallon there. The big problem is not "gas for the trip", if it was, it's easy to save enough to have "gas for the trip", the big problem is all the other stuff going on at the same time. In recent history, I had a really good fall fishing in KY, and one day when the afternoon looked nice, I drove 4 hours to fish 4 hours, and saw 4 caught 2. Nice trip which I really enjoyed, but looking at the cost and logistics of such a trip now, I will probably never do it again, and it isn't really that you can't, but most of us have limited resources, and family or single, you have to allocate those resources after food, shelter and security, and sometimes fishing or recreation in general can get to be a pretty low priority on that list. I also think it is just now sinking in on people how much extra they are putting out for energy. The heating season is coming up right behind the fishing season and I don't believe heating fuel is getting any cheaper either. I am sure part of it is mental, and that people haven't done all the math on the extra cost, but the cost is pervasive throughout any of us working stiff's budget right now, and it is being felt. If fuel is a neccessary expense it is going to take the first bite and leave less at the end of the month for other stuff. I think a lot of guys look at their fishing expense as adjustable, and are cutting back and that will be the future of the sport. More fishing close to home and probably less fishing overall looks like what is going to happen. Of course as this happens, I am getting ready to put in for fall vacation time and hope that Todd M cannot afford enough gas to get up there and molest my fish before I get there, and that the other sorry nabobs who have infested my waters in recent years, have decided they cannot afford the trip and stay the h*** home. ![]() | ||
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Posts: 1270 | In Wisconsin I think it has more to do with the terrible weather we have been having. I think it's been stormy just about every weekend so far this summer and forecasted for more storms this weekend. I think a lot of the people who are not going fishing because of the price of gas have not sat down and realized that in the big realm of thing the extra price of gas is not that big of deal. Onieda, I get a kick out of you saying that every bar in Lincoln and Onieda County are for sale. Aren't they always for sale? Isn't the joke that every business north of HWY 8 always for sale? | ||
ukesox![]() |
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Feeling the sqeeze here in England too guys. Our current fuel prices are eye-watering. Regular gas is at $10 per gallon & diesel at a cool $12 ![]() We've had a 30% increase in the last 9 months. | |||
kap n jim![]() |
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Posts: 5 | I just read that boat sales in 2007 were the worst they have been in 40 years. I would think boat sales thus far in 2008 are lower than 2007. That means Tom, Dick and Harry have not made it northward with their new rig this year. That's three less people up north spending money. The economy, etc. stinks and then add on all the natural disasters we are all dealing with here in the Midwest. I won't get up north until probably late summer. Please leave the lights on and have a cold one ready ! ![]() | ||
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Posts: 72 | I'm currently dealing on another boat. Details to follow...... But you would not believe how much they are coming down (dealers that is). It doesn't seem to matter if it's a year end 2008 or 2009 that need to be ordered. It's funny a moth ago I was told they were going up 3-10% depending on the maker. | ||
Gander Mt Guide![]() |
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Posts: 2515 Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Suddenly the Esox with a 30hp is a very very popular item of conversation at the gas station..thanks Mr Worrall! | ||
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Posts: 20248 Location: oswego, il | FSF, trust me, the fish have not been molested by me. Not much going on up there right now. Things will never get better, I do not think. I don't see gas going back down and I don't see wages rising to meet the higher cost. The economy will seek the level that this all bears which will take some time but it has not hit everything yet. | ||
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Posts: 2024 | It's a phenomenon known as "shifting baselines." Over the years, gas prices have given us a rough reference point. Note the term, "rough." Rough entails "broad" implying gas prices have varied greatly over the years, even just the last year! So now much of the public has had to "readjust" to the current gas prices. This could be a good thing, spurring such activities as bicycling, increased carpooling, more walking, etc. that can decrease our carbon footprint and increase health. However, as time progresses and gas prices remain high, as does our need for fossil fuels, we become "complacent" and accept the high gas prices. In our cases (as fishermen), the collective whole - fishermen, tourists, restaurant owners, resort owners, tackle shop owners, etc. - must develop an "awareness of change" and demand a new course of action, because what is currently going on is simply not cutting it. It is hurting everyone in some way, shape, or form. It is becoming increasingly difficult (monetarily) for some that live in rural towns to simply drive to the grocery store and buy food for their families! Food prices have increased as a result of increased fuel prices, then tack on the gas needed to get there! I understand the last example is certainly the exception and not the rule, but it is happening and without a doubt it is saddening. We are considering not making the run down to Nestor Falls when we are on Sab Bay (Morson) in one week. That drive alone is spectacular, but a 30 minute run even at 3500-4000 RPMs is pricey. Will we do it? Probably! But the point is we are considering NOT doing it simply because it may cost us a bit more. I can't remember a trip where there was even a HINT of hesitation as to whether or not we should make the run... If nothing else, wages must increase to meet the "new" price of fuel. Oh, there I go... my baseline has just shifted. [For an explanation of "shifting baselines" and how it pertains to many things in our lives, fuel aside, check out these links] http://www.shiftingbaselines.org http://www.sbflixcontest.org/indexWhatis.php http://www.shiftingbaselines.org/mpas/psa.php | ||
T-Bone![]() |
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Posts: 223 Location: Victoria,MN | I was on Sab from 6/27-7/5, and prior t our trip I was thinking that there would be less fishing preasure because of the fuel costs, well I was wrong. I believe we saw more boats than the previous years. Fuel cost at Morson were 1.44/L and also member of our party paid 8.00/gal. at a resort. | ||
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Hey T-Bone, I'm heading up to Sabaskong for the first time on Saturday, noticed in the fishing reports area that a couple others are gonna be there shortly as well. Any tips?(posting in the Fishing Reports section might be preferable so as not to bog down this thread). Thanks in advance. Paul | |||
T-Bone![]() |
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Posts: 223 Location: Victoria,MN | Paul- you have mail. | ||
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