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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | That Bass/Walleye guy may have been a solid CPR advocate for Muskies, many are these days. |
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| Great fish, yeah its' a shame that it is dead. So be it.
I don't understand the vile aggression people have against those who keep a fish. Just don't get it. I would venture to guarantee you that every single one of us has killed at least one (likely more) fish. It might be known, it might be unknown, it happens. Plain and simple.
The attitude that "you can do no wrong" makes me sick, really. It disgusts me that you treat someone in that manner. It sounds, truly, as though you think you are better than someone else.
This isn't directed at any one person, it is directed at anyone that it might need to be directed it. Step back, think about it. You've got no room to judge. |
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Location: Stones throw away...finally!! | Guest - 10/31/2007 3:22 PM
I'm in complete agreement with Jclymer on this.
If I were going to kill a big fish and wanted to avoid as much flack as possible, I would tell everyone that I tried to release the fish and it died.
Yes, it's just a fish, but guess what? There are many big fish being killed around this state that you never hear about on the internet due to the shame involved. How much longer till we have a Wabigoon or Lac Seul situation on our hands here. Same for Vermilion.
I venture to say that if the biggest fish in Pelican Lake kept getting killed, Mr. Worrall might feel a bit more strongly about this right to kill the biggest fish in the system.
Jclymer, and other worried to speak up, it's making me sick, too.
Guest
Point to ponder:
If your point is that a resource is being destroyed, why don't people make a fuss about a 200" whitetail being harvested? Obviously, it is one of the biggest around. I think it is funny how muskies are held at such a higher level than all other "game" animals. If the guy says that he tried to release him, get off your soapbox and cut him a little slack. |
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| if some of you are so bent out of shape that fish are being kept on Mille Lacs why don't you harness some of your energy, rally your troops and get the size limits raised instead of bashing someone who has every right to legally keep one if he chooses to do so....
I won't keep a fish but also won't ridicule a guy to the extent some of you have...he has a license i presume and is well within his right...get off your high horses and go do something constructive like getting the size limit raised to 54 or 55...
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Im a rep in the MMA,, we wanted 54 on Mille Lacs, Vermillion,Leech and Cass, but it was the the DNR's recomendation that we not make such a big jump from 40 to 54 they told us we would probbably not get it and be back to square one at 40,,their advice was to make the move to 48 then in a few years push for 54'
however there have been a number of big fish harvested this year maybe we can seize the moment and push for 54,,our meetings start in dec
Edited by happy hooker 11/1/2007 7:41 AM
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| I would suspect you would get a lot of support from fishermen in WI/IL etc that fish those lakes quite a bit...with the size fish in there it just makes sense to try and get it now...go for it! I hope you succeed!
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Guys:
With lures like the bulldawg he caught the fish on, they often times get taken deep. A muskies heart is just below its tongue and if a hook hits it its a dead fish...regardless of the size of the fish! I've had it happen on a 17-incher and a clients 43-incher. Hated it both times, but if you hook/catch enough muskies it is going to happen. FYI, gill damage, regardless of bleeding, isn't normally fatal and if released they have a better than average chance to make it.
The point is well taken on having the proper release equipment handy and in multiples, and thanks to Steve Jonesi for his thread on the proper tools. I hope everyone read it and took it to heart. As an aside, Knipex cutters are expensive, but are a MUST for easy cutting of hooks. Muskies are too valuable to use inferior equipment and these cutters are only the cost of one or two lures...and EVERY muskie fisherman I know has WAY TOO MANY of those "expensive" items!!
Congrats to the angler on a very special fish. Do you realize just how few 50-pound and over muskies have been caught and verified in the history of our great sport? An average of just over one per year over the past 122 years (pgs. 362-365 Volume II of my 3rd Edition "Compendium")!!
Edited by Larry Ramsell 11/1/2007 8:04 AM
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Wow! Joe- Very nice fish, congrat's!
Joe said he tried to release it! Yet people call him a liar. What the heck is the matter with you? Have you caught a fish of this caliber by yourself? I'll bet not! This is another classic case of envy. If he wanted to, he could have bonked it so hard you could have heard it where you live, and he would have been perfectly within his rights to do so. Just because he's emotional and say's things that are misinterpreted as that he intentionally killed it! Yeah, "Papa" probably would have been overjoyed to see Joe catch this fish. That doesn't mean he intentionally killed it. The story is abreviated- so don't let that lead you down a path where your own motives are in question.
Joe- That's one helluva a fish, don't appologize to anyone for not letting her slide to the bottom of the lake as crayfish food.
Al
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Location: The desert | Wow, I almost hope I never catch a big fish. If my fingernails are too long I'll probably get criticized for not trimming them and how by not doing so I removed enough slime coat to kill the fish. Is it possible to post a picture of a big fish anymore? If you do the fish wont be the size that you measured it at, people wont like how you held it, people will be jealous because you caught it on 'their' water and they havent caught one that big in all the time they spent on that water, its almost become a lose-lose situation if you catch a big fish.
If I ever am fortunate to catch a big beast I dont plan on sharing it with many people mainly because of how ridiculous some people out there are, which is truly sad because we all enjoy looking at big fish....flip through the LAX reproduction contest, some great specimens in there!
One other question I have about Mille Lacs is, How many small fish are you guys seeing out there? Obviously we only really hear about the beasts that come out of there, I'm just curious as to the number of small fish you guys are seeing/catching out there. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | I'm sorry guest and for anyone on this board who thinks the guy is lying about it......BUT WERE YOU THERE?!!!
"people complain about others of things they don't like in themselves." Hmmm...that is a very true statement for the most part in life , and I feel especially true for those who cannot be happy for this man and his catch. I have not even come close to a fish of that size, but I hope to someday...
man..whatever happened to just being happy to catch muskies of any size? It's NOT about size in this sport. If anyone thinks it is, I think the boat has truely been missed. What bothers me here is that we have some who are total CPR and that is great!! We have others who wish to keep their trophy...that is great too!! BUT...when people try to degrade or condemn anothers actions which are legal, it really says alot about the integrity(or maybe better stated the lack thereof) of the accuser...ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DONT' KNOW THE WHOLE STORY AND ARE UNWILLING TO ACCEPT THE INFORMATION THAT IS THERE.
When you point a finger at someone...remember....3 point back at you...
Steve
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