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| Have just been told that a musky has better vision than we do,is this at all true or do they have somewhat poorer vision? I ask because the detail in lures on the market today is getting better. Is most of this to sell baits to "fisherman" or needed to catch "fish". How good can a musky see detail on these lures? Can they pick up on the smallest details and contrast changes,or is this just a confidence thing for us to bild on. I know that a bait that is your confidence bait will get worked longer and harder than a new "should work bait". What is your info on this? |
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| I have seen Muskies depart from following a lure because of seeing something. This is my opinion rather than fact. But I have had them slam on the brakes and actuall regurgitate at the boat when they have seen me, my partner, or something that looked wrong or harmful. This has happened to me a couple of times. Both times someone in the boat was wearing brightly colored clothing. Could be a coincidence, I just don't know for sure. I beleive that they can see pretty darn well. They feed mostly by sight so it should only follow that they can see relatively well or would not be able to eat on a regular basis. As for the more natural and detailed lures. I think that sometimes we are our own worst enemy. Bait fish and other "natural" food are colored the way they are for a reason. It is so that they blend within their surrondings and do not stand out from the crowd. When we build lures that are perfectly natural we are in essence building in natures camoflage. I like to fish lures that stand out from the forage base at least a little bit, contrast a color or something on that order. Just the thoughts of an fishing junkie that likes to ramble on from time to time.
Let Em Go...Let Em Grow.....Mike
www.ihatebrightcoloredraingearinmyboat.com[:bigsmile:] |
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| If I remember this right,they have monacular and bionacular vision both.My understanding is each eye see`s out to a different side and both eyes combined look up.So I think out to the sides is not that good(glimpes)but at that above point where both eyes converge is the best vision.Which I am told is only 18" to 36" out/above the face.So at that point is when they have the best/most crucial look at your offering.Water clarity,time of day,weather conditions all play a major role in there vision also,so I guess at times they can see good or times not so good and that there vision is NOT SUPERNATURAL!These are the guidelines I was taught with and fish by! Jeff |
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| Muskyone what you said about making lures that standout a little bit is exactly what I am doing with these custom paint jobs. Would like more input on what other people think about this subject. I would like to know how good there vision is before I start the next batch of baits.Do fish do have "poor", "good" or "great" vision. HOW GOOD DO FISH SEE CONTRAST CHANGES? HOW GOOD DO THEY SEE COLOR CHANGES? |
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| My favorite color pattern is FL. orange top and bottom and yellow on the sides with black spots,not very natural. Even when you use close to natural colors it should painted in a way that gives the fish a flashing movement when the bait wiggles. But not to radical other wise people won't buy it. Somehow it needs to stick out in a crowd, but not so much that it scares the fish, thats the hard part! IMHO
Roger |
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| I thought maybe we would get some more input on musky vision,the original question!Not speculation of eveyones confidence colors.Anyone else know anything about vision? |
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| From what I've read, I believe muskies have good vision.... however it is highly dependent on environmental factors. When conditions are right (water clarity, wind, lure depth, angle of sun, etc.) I think a musky can see the A-Hole on a 6 inch cisco from 50 feet. When conditions are bad, I don't think a musky can see the broad side of a barn at 3 feet.
What we do know about fish vision is that they can see color very well. They have more rods (black and white vision sensitive to light intensity) than cones (color vision). Rods allow fish to see shades very well and gives them outstanding peripheral vision.
They do not have eyelids, so need to use aperature or simply re-locate themselves to be comfortable under certain conditions.
Bottom line, I think for a custom painter looking to make PRODUCTIVE paint patterns, there is no single pattern out there. You need natural patterns for high visibility conditions and you need obscenely visible patterns for low visibility conditions. And remember, sometimes the HERBIE technique of "shocking" them with high vis lures in high vis conditions can be deadly.
What makes a high visibility lure is impossible to predict!!! There are simply too many factors involved at any given time. Thus, you need to make lots of different stuff that looks cool to the fisherman so they can experiment. For a painter... that should be good news!! Job Security. |
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| The baits that I have and make are for me,this is not something im doing to make money. The reason I ask the questions is for my personal and client rewards. The little things we do sometimes make alot in rewards. The water in my pond seems to get clearer every year,with this in mind I would like to stay a little ahead of the pack,that is use everything I can to catch that fish that might have only been a looker and now its a CPR fish. |
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| I believe they can see well too. Well not in illinois, no fish can see through that water! |
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| One one Wisconsin river body of water I fish, the eyes of the muskies are extended out of the socket. Water clairity is 3 inches but the muskies seem to have tried to extend there eyes out to gather more light. |
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| The largest variable regarding muskie vision and color of the presentation is the amount of light penetrating to the presentation level. If the water is dirty, the light low, or any one of dozens of other combinations that lower the light penetration, the colors will be subdued, or unavailable. Without light, there is no color, if the light is low there is very little color; no matter the cone cell vision availability to the fish. [:0] |
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