Posted 2/16/2007 7:48 PM (#239384 - in reply to #239368) Subject: RE: Rods for big bucktails...
Posts: 551
Location: Columbus, Georgia
triton1,
I just ordered a 9 foot Diamondback Heavyweight from Keith at Professional Edge Rods specifically for throwing Double Cowgirls, XXX's, the new Llungen DC-10's, etc..
Professional Edge is building a really great reputation for their quality, bait-specific sticks.
Posted 2/17/2007 5:59 AM (#239464 - in reply to #239368) Subject: Re: Rods for big bucktails...
Posts: 194
I second the Professional Edge Rods. Although I wouldn't recomend you get that specific rod in the video for bucktails. That is my rod. It's a St.Croix Blank XXXH lengthened to 8'6" from 7'9". Keith builds a sweet rod. There's a lot of quality blanks to choose from, and he'll steer you in the right direction.
bn
Posted 2/17/2007 12:55 PM (#239534 - in reply to #239368) Subject: RE: Rods for big bucktails...
I would say longer is better for the big tails...something like Keiths Diamondback rod or even the Tica rods in 8'6" length are good rods for those big bucktails
Posted 2/17/2007 1:09 PM (#239536 - in reply to #239368) Subject: Re: Rods for big bucktails...
Posts: 2427
Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
My clients and I will once again be using Keith's Professional Edge Diamondbacks and Edge rods. Mine are 8'6 and 9 foot, client rods are 8' and 8'4.
These rods simply rock!
lambeau
Posted 2/17/2007 3:22 PM (#239554 - in reply to #239368) Subject: Re: Rods for big bucktails...
imho, the key thing for any lure is matching the rod's action and power to the lure you're going to be casting. length is all well and good, but doesn't tell the whole story. i've got an 8 foot Pro Edge Diamondback with medium power and another with heavy power. obviously they perform very differently in spite of both being the same length, brand, and builder.
keep in mind that just because the big double-10 bucktails are large, doesn't mean they're all that heavy...most of them are still only a couple ounces, way less than even something like a magnum dawg. if you use too stiff of a rod to cast them, the rod won't load up properly, resulting in reduced distance, poor casting performance, more likely backlashes, etc. likewise, if you're underpowered you'll wear yourself out trying to make up for your rod's deficiencies.
take a look at the rod's rating, and match your equipment to the lure your throwing. there's no need to overpower your bucktails using pool cues just because they seem big. save your XXXH rods for the "pounders" and go with something that's got some flex for casting bucktails, even big ones.
as already mentioned, a longer rod opens up more options of actions that load up nicely while still having plenty of power lower in the rod, and make for great figure-8s, an important feature with bucktails.
lots of good options out there to check out.
two rods i've got that cost in the same range ($200-$250):
8' Shimano Calcutta Inshore, Hvy/ExtraFast rated 1-4oz
8' Pro Edge Diamondback Heavy
with the same weight 7000 series Abu reel on each, when held side by side the Shimano is slightly heavier (the Dback is a _very_ lightweight rod).
they were pretty dang similar to each other, with the Diamondback having a slower action (i'd still rate it "fast"), but with slightly more power: ie, the tip bend is closer to the base when fully loaded, but it's slightly stiffer throughout the length of the rod than the Shimano.
the Shimano performed awesome throwing XX and XXX bucktails last year, i'm sure the heavy Pro Edge Diamondback will do a great job this year as a dawg rod and backup duty as a hvy bucktail rig for boat guests.
Posted 2/17/2007 5:23 PM (#239582 - in reply to #239368) Subject: RE: Rods for big bucktails...
Posts: 288
Location: Montreal, Que. Canada
I am getting the Shimano Compre 8 foot XH for the job. The softer action in an XH could make it the best choice for the BIG 10's for those who don't have 200$+ to spend on a rod.I heard it is lighter than the St. Croix Premier 8 foot. The limited life time warranty does'nt hurt either. The shimano people have always VERY good to me . What do you guys think?
Posted 2/17/2007 8:44 PM (#239619 - in reply to #239368) Subject: Re: Rods for big bucktails...
Posts: 551
Location: Columbus, Georgia
Hey David,
I have the Compre 8 foot heavyweight rod (not the XH) and I enjoy it because it is lighter and has more play in the rod tip (a little slower tip) than say St. Croix Avid heavyweight 8 footer. It's a little light to throw Mag Dawgs all day, but is a comfortable rod for anything 3 to 4 ounces.
I would say that the XH you are referring to should do an excellent job handling the resistance of those #10 blades, and as well leave you with a little energy reserve after figure 8ing those bigger spinner baits for more than an hour or two.
I think Shimano's Compre line is a great value weighing in at slightly more than $100.
Posted 2/17/2007 10:28 PM (#239633 - in reply to #239368) Subject: RE: Rods for big bucktails...
Posts: 71
I don't know if I'm second , third or what but I reccomend the 9'Heavy D-back from Professional Edge. I have been wearin' out the snow drifts since picking mine up.
Posted 2/17/2007 10:36 PM (#239636 - in reply to #239633) Subject: Re: Rods for big bucktails...
Posts: 1237
Location: South Portsmouth, KY
I got to try out the new 8 ft mh and 8'6" xh Legend Tournament series from St Croix today at a pool demo and i was tossing the double cowgirls and giant shumway flasher on the medium heavy one with no problem. I though my new premier was light, untill i picked up the legend and wow i could tell a difference.
njmusky
Posted 2/19/2007 9:01 AM (#239917 - in reply to #239368) Subject: Re: Rods for big bucktails...
Just Bought a That New 8 Foot Tournament Series this week at one of our Fishing Shows..Got a great price from one of the St Croix Retailers. It was a deal I could not Pass Up , the 8 foot Tournament and the New 7'9" st croix XXXhvy (BullDawg rod) both @ 20% discount and Tax Included.................Hope these work as good as they look.................Now if I can only Find a Bucktail That I can catch fish on........ My score to Date 6 years, 153 Bucktails, 0 fish...... Oh there was One hot summer day where I did somthing right..and Boated Five, and lost two........ Thank you Mr.Shumway
Posted 2/19/2007 9:29 AM (#239928 - in reply to #239368) Subject: Re: Rods for big bucktails...
Posts: 2089
"Throwing" big blades is only one part of the equation. Boatside manner is the other.Speed is a HUGE trigger at boatside, whether you do an 8 or an oval.I don't want the rod to "load" when I go mach 10 in an 8.The rod has to be stiff enough toward the tip in order to control the bait and hopefully, set the hook.Seems like the 9' rods are becoming popular.All 5 of "my" rods in the boat at the end of last season were 9'.Oh, so many options. Steve
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