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Message Subject: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip
VMS
Posted 12/23/2006 5:56 PM (#227375)
Subject: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip





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Location: Oakdale, Minnesota
I have heard of people doing this to their grandma/jake style baits. What does it do to the action of the bait?

Also, what would squaring off the lip do?

Thanks

Steve
Treats
Posted 12/25/2006 10:30 PM (#227717 - in reply to #227375)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip


It makes the bait easier to twitch. I wouldn't recommend doing it to a bait that you want for trolling as it doesn't have the same wobble.

I've never squared one off so I can't comment on that.

happy hooker
Posted 12/26/2006 2:53 PM (#227819 - in reply to #227375)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip




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I hope its not an original old m-9 grandma your thinking of V'ing!!!! that would be like spitting on the American Flag,,I'll give you a brand new jake for it any color you want?????
VMS
Posted 12/26/2006 4:32 PM (#227839 - in reply to #227819)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip





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Location: Oakdale, Minnesota
Naw...I am planning on doing it to a couple 6 inch grandmas. Love those babies in the spring.

maybe do it to a 9 incher, but I just bought it so it is not an original.

Thanks for the info!!

Steve
Muskie Treats
Posted 12/26/2006 5:23 PM (#227844 - in reply to #227375)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip





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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Be careful on which baits you do it to. I've found that it only works on 10" baits (jakes and slammers). I tried it on 8" jakes and slammers and it just ruined them.
jlong
Posted 12/27/2006 7:19 AM (#227933 - in reply to #227375)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip





Posts: 1932


Location: Black Creek, WI
I'm with Treats on this one. DickP showed me that "trick" several years ago and my first few attempts on 8 inch Jakes were extreme failures. Thus, I never tried it on the larger 10 inchers (too risky of an experiment, in my opinion).
fatfingers
Posted 12/27/2006 12:00 PM (#227995 - in reply to #227375)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip




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Can anyone post a picture of a bait on which this modification has been successfully applied?

I build baits and I'd like to try building a few with that modification and then try variations of it.
kurtg
Posted 12/30/2006 6:23 PM (#228711 - in reply to #227995)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip




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It always worked for me. I started doing it to M-9's and originals. I screwed them up but the lips are easy enough to make. But the Jakes and the New Grandmas seem to work better. It cost me a few lures in the beginning but the rewards are worth it to me now.

Epoxy and 1 file $15
3-4 Jakes on E-Bay=$30
A big 9" twitch bait that runs 1-3ft over weeds=Priceless

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djwilliams
Posted 1/1/2007 12:27 AM (#229216 - in reply to #228711)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip




Posts: 750


Location: Ames, Iowa
I did this to a 6 inch Jake a few years ago after reading about it here. The Jake doesn't have the tight wobble or the depth it had before, and sorta rolls a bit on the twitch without rolling completely over. And yeah, it stays shallow. Used a scroll saw and a file.
Don
California_Muskie
Posted 1/1/2007 11:50 AM (#229270 - in reply to #227375)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip





Posts: 299


Location: Ontario, California
Can someone please explain how to do this? What tools are needed, etc...

Thanks.
GMan
Posted 1/2/2007 9:42 AM (#229432 - in reply to #227375)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip





Posts: 479


Location: Eden Prairie & Pine Island
California M,
Score the lip slightly with a file or small saw blade where you want to bend it, then heat it up there with a candle or mini torch and it will bend...be careful though, too much scoring or too much heat will make it weak and ruin it. Good luck.
G
jlong
Posted 1/2/2007 2:47 PM (#229515 - in reply to #229432)
Subject: RE: "Vee-ing" a grandma lip





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Location: Black Creek, WI
The above photo is NOT what I consider "v-ing" the lip. The trick showed to me by DickP was basically cutting or shaving the sides of the lip. When viewing the lip from the front the standard lip looks like a "U" and after the mod it looks like a "V".

And... when bending the lip up as depicted in the above photo... my Jakes ran deeper and with less "action" when twitched. What's up with that????
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