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Message Subject: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits
bluegill
Posted 12/19/2006 6:53 PM (#226622)
Subject: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits




Posts: 199


Location: Sandusky, OH
Hi all,

My goal this winter is to load up on some baits made of hard plastic, especially gliders and jerkbaits. I just don't want to buy duds. I already am getting the following baits because I've either used them or because of positive things I've read here:
Sledge,
ERC line (Hellhound, DD, DDD),
Dunwright Dancer.

The next are baits I'm considering, but don't know much about and could use advise:
Magic Maker,
Squirrely Gill Glide,
Dunwright Hatchet,
Squirko/Jerko.

The last are baits I'm likely to exclude due to either no interest or their being less effective on the waters I fish:
Burt,
Joker.

I would love to hear the good and bad on all the lures I've listed, as well as any other hard plastics I've either forgotten or missed. If I get my arsenal well stocked this winter, I'll have more $ for wood baits next year. Thanks.

Eric

ToddM
Posted 12/19/2006 7:01 PM (#226625 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits





Posts: 20281


Location: oswego, il
Pretty much all the baits listed are good. I could be wrong but I believe the dunwright baits listed are wood. With that said both are great baits. I love my squirley gill glide and it has seen battle this year. So has my heckhound and triple d. I like my sledge the faster I work it. Like indiana jones running from that giant rock.
guts
Posted 12/19/2006 9:11 PM (#226637 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits




Posts: 556


the jerko/squirko's are a very awsome bait great lures
The Yeti
Posted 12/19/2006 10:36 PM (#226654 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits


jerko put the biggest in my boat in 05

missed a bigger one this year on one

squirkos attract bass! lol

love both of them!
musky-skunk
Posted 12/20/2006 7:46 AM (#226681 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits





Posts: 785


I absolutly love the Hellhound and it has shown/caught me fish this year when nothing was working. My second fav' would be Mantas. I'm not sure if they are wood or plastic but almost all the ones I own have been eaten. I also like phantoms but they are a little less eratic in the water and a bit harder to get the hang of. Undertakers in my opinion are a waste of money, I just can't get any action out of them without them breaking the surface, that said I think they have the best paint jobs in the musky fishing world. I'm not real crazy about jerkos and squirkos but they are still good baits, just need the knack. Last but not least some really big fish have been caught on burts and squirly burts but I think I'd take a sand cat or a suick anyday over them. Sorry, I mostly mentioned wood baits, the mantas and hellhounds consist of over 90% of my jerkbait fishing, and would be my pics.
Reef Hawg
Posted 12/20/2006 12:30 PM (#226737 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
I'd personnally put jerkos right at the top of the list in the jerk bait group you mentioned. Seems there are duds, but most are 'good' ones. As a Reef Hawg junky at heart, I love the size of the jerko(right in between a 6 and 8" Hawg), the fact that it is plastic(never/rarely goes out of tune) and is a great hooking lure. They work very similar to my best 'Hawgs and can be pulled, popped or tapped. Really versitile in that they can be used as a perfect glider(I am not the biggest fan of side to side only lures), but can also have cadence altered by giving a longer pull now and then to get the lure to take a sharp dive down. I also love the baby jerko and baby squirko, as they are great throw backs and early season producers. also had several of the biggest fish of' 05 and my P.B. on the Jerko(was a killer year for them for some reason). Love em!



Edited by Reef Hawg 12/20/2006 12:31 PM
Schuler
Posted 12/20/2006 1:27 PM (#226744 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits





Posts: 1462


Location: Davenport, IA
The regular Jerko and Squirko I had did not work well. But the baby Jerko is great. I had a follow on my first cast with it and had one take it on the 3rd. The hellhound is a great bait (along w/ the triple d) Mantas are easy to work but I haven't had any luck yet on the 10" (gonna keep trying)

If the plastic magic makers work just like the wood ones, then they are good.
mikie
Posted 12/20/2006 1:41 PM (#226748 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits





Location: Athens, Ohio
SLEDGE!

Long and short, great little fish catchers, they are. m

http://www.thornebros.com/muskie/baits/dive_rise_jerkbaits/dr_jerkb...

ps- I understand Mr. Shutt no longer owns the company.
davep
Posted 12/20/2006 1:50 PM (#226751 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits


Another vote for Jerkos/Squirkos here.
I am also a fan of Burts. Have had luck with them.
Jim Stroede
Posted 12/20/2006 2:04 PM (#226754 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits




Posts: 92


Bluegill,
The Dunwright baits are hard, solid plastic. I've caught nice fish on the dancers. The Bitten Tackle Warlock is poured solid plastic too. A great glider and made in the good ol' USA.

Merry Christmas, Jim Stroede
Dacron + Dip
Posted 12/20/2006 3:13 PM (#226775 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits


Manta's a solid plastic bait too, sort of like a Plow.
bluegill
Posted 12/20/2006 4:07 PM (#226786 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits




Posts: 199


Location: Sandusky, OH
Thanks, everyone, for the great comments so far. Looks like the consensus is that I should add a jerko to my list of definates. Also, I wasn't aware that the Warlock and Manta were plastic; I have a manta on my 'future bait' list, and I've heard great things about the Warlock so that one moves way towards the top. Does anyone know where I can see a picture of all the color patterns for the Warlock? I see I can buy them at Pastika's (spp?), but I've only seen the perch and bluegill patterns and would like to evaluate them all befor ordering.

Thanks, and keep the recommendations coming.

Eric
Dacron + Dip
Posted 12/20/2006 4:19 PM (#226792 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits


Weighted Sledges in 9" troll well too with a 8oz to 1lb weight, near the wash. The smaller ones, in unweighted, need a lot of work to keep them down and running casting and retrieving. Lead solder or a bell sinker up front helps a lot, with the bell sinker, you also get some extra sound when it rocks back and bumps off the lure's belly. You can bend the hook points out a bit if you think the extra stuff up there will hurt hooking, but I haven't noticed it. Sledges are one of the best hookers I've used, like a lot of the guys say. On rocks, I've noticed that front hook will get wrecked quick. Other baits like Bobbies or Suicks seem to protect the front hook better when you touch a rock (the nose will get chipped out, though). With Sledges, as soon as it happens I know the hook will need work. Sometimes the point gets folded right over and I've had to just replace it outright. Sledges also have some nice colours.
Nupe
Posted 12/20/2006 5:05 PM (#226798 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits




Posts: 519


Location: Bloomington, IL
I second musky-skunk on the Hellhounds and Mantas. For hard plastics, these 2 get my vote. I have some Burts, but have not used them enough yet to comment.

I love the aciton of my Hellhound. Awesome side-to-side action that is effortless, plus I can get it to twitch erractically, up/down, etc... if I want it to. I can also skim the surface with the glide by pullin gup on my rod. It's very versatile. If I want to work it a little deeper to where I can't see it (especially on stained water), I have all the confidence in the world that it's working its mojo.

The Mantas are hard to beat for side-to-side glide. Both of these are constructed of hard plastic making them almost indestructible.

Nupe

Cant' catch 'em at home sittin' on your couch!
Musky911
Posted 12/20/2006 5:18 PM (#226802 - in reply to #226786)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits





Posts: 369


Location: Omaha NE
bluegill - 12/20/2006 4:07 PM
Does anyone know where I can see a picture of all the color patterns for the Warlock?
Eric


Here is his website:
http://bittentackle.tripod.com/

MuskieE
Posted 12/20/2006 6:50 PM (#226818 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits





Posts: 2060


Location: Appleton,WI
My votes for the squirrlley gill glide.Awesome walk the dog action!But thats just because the biggest fish I saw this fall was on that.
dejon
Posted 12/20/2006 9:01 PM (#226844 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits


I prefer the custom made baits, something they don't see alot. Especially on pressured water. I have 3 Squirrley Gill Glides and 3 Gill Glides. First gliders out of my box. What ever you get for baits you must have confidence in them. These two gliders I have the most confidence in for whatever that is worth.
h2os2t
Posted 12/20/2006 9:31 PM (#226846 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits




Posts: 941


Location: Freedom, WI
On all those listed I have DDDs and like them (use it more as a crankbait), tried a Hellhound and decided not to buy one (friend of mine says they work trolling so will hold judgement). Do know quite a few guys that like squirkos/jerkos but do not have any. Have a Squirrely Gill Glide and like it, easy to work. Do not have any of the rest.
Slime King
Posted 12/21/2006 10:04 AM (#226913 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits





Posts: 498


Location: midwest
My vote would go for the warlock, it's a nice bait with good paint and finish and all the ones I have seen have been consistent as far as size, weight and action.
Ranger Bob
Posted 12/21/2006 8:45 PM (#227013 - in reply to #226844)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits




Posts: 45


Location: Appleton, Wi
my vote would be for the squirrley gill glide. It is very easy to work and has excellent action
muskynightmare
Posted 12/21/2006 10:50 PM (#227033 - in reply to #226622)
Subject: RE: Hard plastic Gliders and Jerkbaits





Posts: 2112


Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water
Squirrley Gill Glides, and Mantas (regular, and hang ten), and hellhounds. but, do not limit yourself to plastic. ALOT of wood gliders are awesome to, such as The Timberwolf 10" and Cobbs.
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