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| Guys/Girls,
I have been thinking about buying a Jon boat for floating the river here in Central Wisconsin and I was hoping it could possibly double as a row-troller. What are your thoughts good/bad on using a jon boat for a row-troller? |
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI | I have a little jon boat that we use for duck hunting small beaver ponds and it works fine as a rowtroller. The one complaint I would have would be fishing some of the bigger lakes in NWI. 2 foot waves have a way of finding their way over the sides. Other than that they are very easy to row and provide more room than one of the standard rowing rigs. Clamp some Downeasters on the sides and you're in business.
Hope this helps.
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| Guess it depends on how much current there is .Most small lakes a jon would be fine.Just might take a little extra work.  |
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| Can't imagine being safe in a jon out on any decent sized lake. Larger speedboats put out 3' waves pulling kneeboarders, one of those would come right over the back. Plus, would you want a motor to run for shore if lightening threatens or the wind comes up?
There are very cool row troller boats out there, and there are those trout guide river boats that are semi-deep V in the front. Hmm...not very helpful. |
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| I use a Swampscot Dory on the St. Lawrence. It requires a bit of pull but is stable like pyramid.
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| Here we go. Banks Dorys were used in the North Atlantic two hundred years ago in the commercial fishing industry; and those guys worked in conditions that would give us nightmares. The Swampscot is a lighter, more mobile variation of the Banks. It is more than stable enough to be out there in any conditions I'm willing to go out in. Three guys could stand and cast in it. And still have room (@ 17 1/2') for a beer cooler! With two sycronized oarsmen there is plenty of power. |
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Location: Oregon | Yea, Scott has it right, that boat is made for rowing. If the stream you plan to drift has any rapids, strong riffles, logjams, etc., make sure to get a boat that can handle it. I don't like jonboats, they are too tippy and the sides are too low. I used a small (12') V-hull for years to drift for steelhead but now have a driftboat designed specifically for handling rivers. If you were to get am aluminum v-hull in a 14' length it would probably be ok.
Be careful if you haven't drifted streams before. Any brush-pile in which the water piles up against it can be deadly!! What happens is you get your boat against it and the current eventually pushes the upstream side of the boat down which flips you over. Then all the occupents are pinned by the current against the debris along with the boat......a small stream is all it takes. We have a fair number of folks die this way every year here in Oregon including two local teachers last summer.
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| We should start a thread with pictures of just row boats.. |
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| We should start a thread with pictures of just row boats.. |
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| Jason,
Any suggestions on what oars to use do you prefer the wooden ones ? I am mostly going to float the Wisconsin up here and v-bottoms of any sort just don't cut it up here way to shallow. I do plan to row troll at some point but that may only be a handful of times. If people could show pictures of their rigs and how they are set up that would be fantastic. |
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| if u havent found a jon boat yet i think i might be selling mine, 14ft 3 bench seats with 2 folding seats one on rear bench other on front didnt leak during duck season this year also have a transom mount trolling motor for it but no trailer, $350.00 takes it with trolling motor if i knew how to post pics i would. if interested i am in ladysmith wi and email address is [email protected] i had planned on building a rowtroller out of it but bought a new ranger instead due to messed up back |
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| Mike, How wide is that boat at the widest point I am interested in the boat could yopu maybe e-mail some digitals to me? |
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| beam is approx 45", tomorrow if i can find someone to show me how to send u pics (I AM A COMPUTER MORON) i will. whats your email address |
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Location: Rhinelander. | would any one have plans for buiding a rowtroller? Seems to me to be a great winter project.
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | Don,
In Patricia Strutz's video she mentions a couple of resorces covering a variety of boats suitable for row trolling. From those, I came upon a number of websites that have plans and kits to build the various types of row boats. Some of the kits are strictly blue prints, others also include blue prints and common and specialty hardware and still others include all of that and the necessary lumber. There is also an annual "sports type" show in madison I think that specifically covers rowing sports. Canoes, Kayaks, Whitewater Rafts, Dorries, skulling "Crewing"boats etc. I think it is in march, not sure. There you can also look at all different styles. Kits can be purchased there as well. I wanted to hit that show last year but I was out of town. I loaned out my copy of Pat's dvd and dont have it back yet but I too am considering this as a project I'd like to try. They certainly are beautiful boats. I would recommend her video, its very inspiring as well. Not your typical musky fishing video and done VERY WELL. I really enjoyed it.
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| The show you're referring to is called Canoecopia and is sponsored by Rutabaga Paddle Sports in Madison. I don't have the details but I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to find. A couple of resources for boats and plans are Giesler Boats, Newfound Woodworks, and Chesapeake Light Craft LLC. If I ever get my kid to get all his junk out of storage in my garage that's my next winter project! |
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Location: Milwaukee,Wi | I made this boat using plans from Newfound Woodworks for the hull. The interior is my own design, set up for row trolling.
Yes I did get a little carried away!
Douglas
www.Rowhunter.com
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | Row Hunter, beautiful boat! Is that the whitehall? Did you buy the kit or just the plans? How'd thie whole process go? Easy to follow plans?
Karl
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| That boat is beautiful.
It would be good exercise too. I could row down-wind, and Sworrall could row into the wind.
The boats that I used to see weren't that long, but that is the same basic hull design.
I know plenty of lakes in Vilas county that have an untapped open-water fishery because of our no troll laws.
I don't think that I could build my own though. Everything that I make tends to sink. Maybe I could make a big flap-tail out of a garbage can cover and use it as an attractor.
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| Really nice looking boat, Douglas. Anyone interested in building a wooden boat should take the time to read John Gardner's books. He is credited with revitalizing interest in wooden boats after wood was replaced by newer materials and wood fell out of favor. This was usually for the non-commercial user. He easily introduces readers to many different boats and their strengths/weaknesses for a given use. It's a great way to spend the winter after you've sharpened all your hooks for the twentieth time. Scott |
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