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Pointerpride102
Posted 11/8/2006 4:09 PM (#219752)
Subject: Cold hands?





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
This passed saturday I fished in some chilly conditions. I wore a pair of gloves but I havent really found a glove that has ever kept my hands warm at all. After thawing out I noticed that the tip of my middle finger has no feeling in it. I can tell that I am putting pressure on things but cant really "feel" anything. Has anyone else lost feeling in any of their limbs and got it back? It has been a few days now and still no feeling....hope it comes back soon otherwise....oh well thats fishing I guess!

Mike
asteffes
Posted 11/8/2006 4:12 PM (#219753 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?




Posts: 454


Seal Skins work well because they keep your hands dry, I am not sure how warm they are as my hands still get cold at times, but I can reach my hand in the livewell to get a sucker with my glove on and I stay dry.
esoxaddict
Posted 11/8/2006 4:17 PM (#219755 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





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Mike that might be frostbite. I don't know if the feeling comes back or not, but it's a reminder that we do have to be careful!

Personally I HATE gloves.

But I hate cold fingers even more, and if you've ever seen my hands, I got the skinniest fingers if anyone you'll ever meet -- there ain't nothing there to keep them warm!

Bought some cheaper neoprenes -- they were ok, but my hands got all cramped up from fighting the gloves trying to cast. Felt like I might lose the rod if I got a fish...

Bought some fingerless wool gloves -- Cool, now I look like that guy from Hill Street Blues. I still can't feel my fingers!

Finally I listened to someone here and I bought a pair of Glacier Gloves with the polypro liners. They're not the warmest things in the world, but they're waterproof. And even when it's pouring and you manage to get the insides soaked, somehow they keep your hands pretty warm! Not like a pair of warm dry gloves, but when its 36 and raining your fingers are only sort of cold instead of "holy ___ cold"

dogboy
Posted 11/8/2006 4:24 PM (#219756 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





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for casting in the cold, get yourself a thin pair of fleece or knit wool gloves, and some larger surgical gloves to go over the top, I dont normally do this, my hands get accustomed to the cold after a bit, but somedays when you have wind and wet hands, but somedays it doesnt matter what you try. I wear chopper mits when I troll, throw a handwarmer in there and away you go.
sounds like frostbite. Watch it to see if it turns colors.
esoxriebe
Posted 11/8/2006 5:08 PM (#219764 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?




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My favorite gloves for casting in the cold are mechanics gloves they are sold at most auto parts stores. Your hands will get a little wet but will stay warm and the reel almost feels the same in your hand as with out gloves. Buy the smallest size you can fit your hand into.
Pointerpride102
Posted 11/8/2006 5:19 PM (#219768 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
I didnt start this to hear about gloves, that subject has been covered here numerous times. I was mainly wondering if anyone out there has ever lost feeling in fingers for some period of time. I dont think its frostbite since there has been no change in color at all. I think some may be due to the way I hold the reel.

Mike
The Yeti
Posted 11/8/2006 5:29 PM (#219775 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?


yes
it will come back slowly Mike. mine was in my toes and my fingers for about 2 weeks.

i also suffered a severe laceration to my right forearm.....dead feeling on the bottom of my thumb and across the top of my hand since last april, but it's been coming around more and more lately.


if it dont, nip it off with the knipex, quickstrike it with a #8 colorado blade ahead of it...at least it will be put to use.

bn
Posted 11/8/2006 5:42 PM (#219780 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?


yes that has happened to me before...it comes back...
try the Ice Armor gloves...they have been about the only glove besides big bulky goretex ski gloves that keep my hands warm..they rock.

jonnysled
Posted 11/8/2006 5:56 PM (#219785 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





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Location: minocqua, wi.
i lost the feeling in the left side of my left hand after last year from palming reels and working jackpot, weagle style topwater (the divorce year had lots of night time on the water!!!) .... it scared me enough to go to a specialist and thankfully it returned over time but you can get hurt doing this sport in ways that will give you something chronic that will last a lifetime. i started to really study and learn techniques for reducing fatigue ... it sounds crazy, but there are a lot of things that people with experience can teach you about how to do things in ways that create less stress on your hands and body while musky fishing.
Pointerpride102
Posted 11/8/2006 6:07 PM (#219786 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Sled,

We'll have to get together and you can give me a few pointers on how to reduce fatigue on my limbs. My upper back always takes a beating too!

Mike
Magruter
Posted 11/8/2006 7:12 PM (#219795 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





Posts: 1316


Location: Madison, WI
Jon will teach you how to be a smart fisherman. He's got some great casting techniques.
Reef Hawg
Posted 11/8/2006 7:33 PM (#219797 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
My left middle finger hasn't had feeling since canada this summer. 10" jakes are the cause. Happens most every year for me about mid season. The feeling has come back some, but it is still pretty tingly. Usually clears up by Christmas. I might need to start using the foregrip more with the bigger lures. Palming could be the issue. As far as back pain, longer rods help more than you could imagine. Make sure to stretch often throughout the day too. One position too long, or poor ergonomics, is the cause of many back injuries. Stretching every so often will help alot. I used to get more back pain. I no longer use my butt seat all day as it was causing some of the fatigue for some reason, and I change positions alot. A good pair of shoes also helps. I really notice my back getting fatigued when wearing my old sneakers vs. a good pair of boots.
mikef
Posted 11/8/2006 8:11 PM (#219805 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?




Posts: 23


Location: minneapolis
in really cold weather I use fingerless wool gloves over a pair of latex or just use the latex gloves. As far as back pain and twitching/throwing big baits, I know it sounds chick, but swing into a drugstore, step up and buy a back brace for 30-40 bucks. It really helps and will keep you on the water longer pain free, and of course just eat alot of advil.
Mike
Steve B
Posted 11/9/2006 7:55 AM (#219857 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?


Pointer,

Sounds more like you might have a pinched nerve somewhere in your wrist or shoulder. I would get this looked at by a doc as they can reccomend some exercises that should clear it up. Possibly an anti-inflamitory might help as well. This does not sound like a cold issue, rather a nerve issue.

Good Luck,

Steve
DocDean
Posted 11/9/2006 10:13 AM (#219919 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?


C7 nerve root innervates the middle finger of the hand. You may have some, hopefully, temporary, compression of the C7 nerve. I have had this several times in the past. The nerve could be compressed at the neck, shoulder, elbow or the wrist. This type of thing is pretty common among Muskie fisherman especially working the big baits and cranks and jerks. This problem is exacerbated by the cold weather as our upper body is much more tense and spasmed. I treat many patients with this as well as being a patient myself. Get it evaluated if it continues as you don't want condition to turn chronic or cause permanent problems. There are many more seasons to come!!!!

Dean, Chiropractor.
CiscoKid
Posted 11/9/2006 11:47 AM (#219964 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





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Location: Oconto Falls, WI
My middle finger use to get numb as well from palming the reel. The feeling comes back after not fishing for awhile. I went to the foregrip this year not becaue of numb fingers, but my wrists couldn't take it anymore. I still palm using certain lures, but I haven't had the wrist/finger problems I have in the past. Tough to get use to the forgrip, but it is much easier on the body.
RiverMan
Posted 11/9/2006 11:48 AM (#219965 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
Sounds like Dean gave you the answer you need. One time I spent an entire day out fishing for steelhead and nearly froze to death! I couldn't feel anything on several toes for weeks! Other than my common sense, I don't think anything was compressed, just froze to death, lol.

jed v.
Ranger
Posted 11/12/2006 1:49 AM (#220500 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





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Get some choppers (oversized leather mittens w/ lanbswool liners) and put a hand warmer in each as you leave the house. They be toasty when you need them.
MuskyTime
Posted 11/12/2006 10:39 AM (#220534 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?




Posts: 331


Location: Stevens Point, Wisconsin
For the numb finger deal because of palming the reel, this is what works for me. I used to get that tingly numb feeling in my left middle finger all the time from what I figured was a pinched nerve. Stopped this by going to Walgreen’s and getting a pack of elastic therapeutic finger wraps. They are similar to the wraps you would put on an ankle for support. Slide one over your finger and it provides enough padding to prevent the pinching. The elastic fit still allows you to palm the reel without any problem. Try it, it really works!

Ed
Got Esox?
Posted 11/12/2006 10:04 PM (#220618 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





Posts: 350


Location: WESTERN WI
Sounds like a pinched nerve which has led to the loss of sensation in your finger. Your physican should be aware of this in case of a permanent effect that may need to be treated.

As far as gloves go when casting in cold conditions everyone has their type but a having multiple gloves is the key. I use a generic thin glove liner and a tight neoprene over it. I go thru about a pair of glove liners every ~1.5 hours and neoprene gloves every ~3 hours. They key is to keep them dry.
boat rod
Posted 11/13/2006 10:11 PM (#220806 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?




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Hey pointer....not trying to sound elite or anything....... but.......with your recent 21st birthday and all ...........you should be well preserved by now!!!!.........its probibly just a nerve thing...... if there is no dis-coloration to your finger......you'll survive......just slam a couple more shots of 1800 and its all good!!!! when its cold!!!! its F$%&in cold man........good luck! ............
Pointerpride102
Posted 11/13/2006 10:15 PM (#220807 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
No elite-ness there boat rod! HAHA that was a good one! I am indeed well preserved! We'll see if I lose feeling this weekend! Wouldnt surprise me with the pinched nerve theory.....my back is screwed up!


Mike
muskiemook
Posted 11/14/2006 2:00 PM (#220887 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





Posts: 132


Location: Chicago, IL
my brother and I both love these. i was thinking of trying latex underneath them to keep your hands extra dry from the slits (so you can fold the finger tips back).




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ToddM
Posted 11/14/2006 8:31 PM (#220947 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





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Location: oswego, il
Muskiemook, I just bought some of those and was really dissappointed to see they have the finger holes. The old ones did not. To be honest, I don't see the point in making a waterproof glove with finger holes. My old polar ice gloves have a few hook point holes and it takes about 20 minutes for my hands to be soaked and cold. I bought a pair of the new ice fishing gloves on the market, forget the name. They retain alot of water which makes my hands cold but they are dry.
esoxaddict
Posted 11/15/2006 9:58 AM (#221019 - in reply to #219752)
Subject: RE: Cold hands?





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Todd, are you using the polypro liners underneath your neoprenes?

I put a few holes in mine too and even though you get wet after a while they are still warm.
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