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| I can get a hold of some 4 1/2 inch fliptail lizards. |
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| ike do you injekt that mould or do you just pour the plastersole? |
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Location: London, England | Don't know if they still make them, but Bucher used to do a lizard (dragon lizard?) which was made of formula X type plastic. It was really tough, but melted if it came in contact with plastisol baits. Only about 5-6" long, but I caught a few fish on them and they were very buoyant. |
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| Remember the old JW Ding -A-Lizard? Liked the paddle tail on that one a lot, then started buying some local guy's baits from Goerke's Corner. LOL. Many moons ago. Steve |
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| Yes, I sure do remember the Ding-A-Lizard. I still have a few that I use to make molds. It's an easy pour. No curly tails!
Tim Kelly, I think that Dragon Lizard was an Odyssey product. I haven't seen them for a while. |
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Location: London, England | You're right Partycrasher. Rings a bell now you say it. |
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| Partycrasher, Moore's Lures still sells the 7 1/2 inch Fliptail lizards if you're interested. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | HAHAHAHA! Some local guy??? |
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Location: SE, WI. | Page 23 of buy sell trade, has some of my patterns for creatures. Have about $400 of molds of about 40 different varieties of patterns. All my favorite plastics patterns are now easy to make. That is something I do in the cool spring months or fall periods. I pour mostly in the garage. Smells up the house tooooo much. Fandango's were so hard to come by so I made my own molds and won several bass tourney on hand poured plastics. Skies the limit with patterns and fun catching fish on your home made baits. Hardener is key when pouring certain plastic like paddle tails. Experimenting and dicovering new patterns and properties in plastic pouring is the key to pouring succesfull plastics. Like adding bronsing powder!!! Been doing this for close to 21 years. You can also make your custom jigs with plaster paris!!! Someday I will post all my patterns....It will BLOW YOU AWAY!!! JIM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Creatures are easy to build. I made my original molds out of pouring plastic, taking the lead master and using it as a 'blank' adhered to the bottom of as glass bread baking dish coated with mold release. Pour the plastic over the master, let it kick, and pop it loose. Now you have a mold to pour your lures, thousands of pours no problem. We used steel molds for our jigs untl we got Paul Repka from Rockford, long gone now, to build them for us. My father designed the very first stand up jig making plaster of paris molds, and brought the Harold Ensely reaper north for use by his friends Jim Cairnes, Larry Latino, and Tony Portincaso.
I started building custom plastics in the 70's, and used to be known as the 'creature man'. I helped Mary Stembridge build and sell the Fliptail Creature and Jim Cairnes and I designed and built the Super Creature that Moores still sells to this day and jdsplasher has improved upon several times. I still remember guiding that young man and his wife for the first time... oh....a few years back...
Here's an image of the original packaging.
Lots of history here.
There are 2 50" plus mounts on the wall at Lakeview on Pelican I caught on the designs in the laaaaate 70's when I was guiding near full time..
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Location: SE, WI. | Steve; See what you created!!!;) ;) |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | jd makes some of the best basement creatures out there, I especially like the little cork floats in the tails on some he sent me! |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | What is everyne else using for coating/sealing your POP molds? I read somewhere to coat it with Mod Podge, but that didn't work too well for me. The first bulldawg replacement tail I poured last week made the Mod Podge extremely sticky. It didn't hold up too well to heat I guess. I am working on getting the Mod Podge off now, and need to reseal my mold.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Make a new mold out of resin, no problems with that stuff at all. |
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| Cisco Kid, Devcon 2-Ton Epoxy (Wal-Mart) thinned a little with acetone. The first coat will soak right in. The second and third coat will get you a nice shiney galzed looking mold. |
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| sworrall - 3/2/2007 10:09 PM
The Fliptail Creature was one of my designs, too. I used a Fliptail Flirt and a Fliptail Lizard combined to get the Creature, making the Lizard a bit larger and the Flirt shorter. I was working with Stembridge Products at the time, and had them build three sizes. Two made it to market.
Yellow is a great color. So is Orange/Chameleon.
Dick Moore bought my lure company after all the design work was completed. Jim Cairnes and I did the Super Creature, the lure you call a Moore/Worrall. I had three sizes of that lure built, as well. |
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| Be Careful Melting Plastic!!! The stuff is not good to breath. |
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