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| I just was given a brand new Falcon flippin stick with telescoping handle. Its 7'6 MH-H fast action. Will this make a decent bucktail, crankbait, and jig (ripping), rod? I had a 7ft MH fast action rod pegged for this but if the flipper will work better ill use that. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | They work just fine for bucktails and jigs, even the heavy stuff if that action is right. |
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| Ditto.
The action is the key.
Throwing light stuff or plastics can be a problem, but after trying some of my bass gear, I started using In-Shore St. Croix rods that are designed for redfish etc. The ones I'm using now are 8'ers that are x-heavy, x-fast. Don't let the x-heavy fool you. They are great for jigs, small twitch baits and small bucktails, cranks and smaller spinnerbaits. If the rod is designed properly, you'll have no problem landing muskies, the fight is just a little different, and very enjoyable.
When bigger, heavier lures aren't getting any attention, bass sized gear will do just fine for the smaller stuff.
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| Yea, thats what i figured. I wont be using for lighter stuff really though, just typical bucks from 5' to 12' and basicly ripping creatures in and around weeds. It will also see duty for casting crankbaits like depth raiders and Deep divers. I wont troll with it, or thrown jerks or twitch baits, i like a shorter rod for that, but i figured it should work good for the bucks, wich is my go to just about all summer any ways. |
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| They can work, but not with the stuff you're wanting to throw them with. A 12" bucktail is huge, an Eagle Tail for example weighs about 2 ounces. Big deep divers create a ton of resistance/drag and weigh at least 1 1/2 ounces.
You can throw smaller bucktails upwards of 7-8" just fine, but in my opinion your going to push your luck throwing anything bigger. You just won't be able to get a solid hookset if your rod is already loaded up by the pull of a giant bucktail.
My dad uses a flippin stick a lot because he simply can't throw big muskie rods all day long. He caught three or four this summer on Lake of the Woods with his flippin stick casting 6" bucktails and smaller bass sized spinnerbaits. I use my flippin stick for throwing Husky Jerks/X-Raps and rattle traps and sometimes a #5 Mepps or similarly small bucktail.
If your Falcon has a strong backbone then you might be able to get away with throwing some larger stuff. I'm not familiar with that line of rods.
Good luck!
Edited by esox50 10/31/2006 8:38 AM
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| Hmm, my shorter rods are rated for 4 oz, but one is 6'6 and the other is 6'2. The flippin stick has a raiting up to 2 oz. and has a stronger backbone than the falcon, so it may work a bit better though im not really sure. I dont throw the 12' bucks alot, just somtimes in the fall. I guess my best bet is to just try it out and see. I do use the heavy short rods for twitching grannys, trolling and for jerk/glide baits. They work ok for that, but i think they are a bit to heavy for lighter stuff like bucks and jigs. They dont load when casting them cheating my out of some distance plus there not as good for the figure 8s. Im new to this type of fishing so its still all pretty forign to me. I really apreciate all the help and advice. |
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Location: Muskegon Michigan | I have the St Croix avid 8 foot flippin stick. Its a custom built rod by Weber rods in PA. I love this rod for throwing small baits like the 205 crane and small bucktails like #4 and #5 Mepps . Many small cranks like 4" rattle traps and such. I use a low profile Phluger Trion Bass reel and 40 lb Power Pro with 60 lb stainless wire leaders. Lots of power there to handle any Musky. You would not want to try throwing mid size cranks or Bucktails with blades over #7 . Hook size also will tell you where to draw the line with the lighter rods.Kingfisher |
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Location: Eagan, MN | I used to use a flippin stick for jigs, and small bucktails & cranks. You won't want to throw anything bigger than the very smallest muskie lures. As far as landing big fish go you won't have any problem. |
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Location: ashtabula ohio | ive been using 2 different ones for 6 yrs now and love em... |
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| I have a custom 7'6" flippin stick with a Abu 4500 loaded with 30# PowerPro as my dedicated jig/creature rod. Works great. |
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| Mine works great for springtime rattletrap season. m |
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| Actually used flipping sticks a fair amount and what I found was that it worked good enough for a light bucktail like a mepps #5 and that is pretty good, and it also works for surface baits that are straight retrieve and low resistance, like say a tallwhacker, teaser tail etc., and maybe a light twitch bait or seven inch suick, but after this assortment, most true flippin sticks are too light to handle much more.
To me, rods that are already loaded up(bent) on retrieve, become difficult to set hooks with when fish hit. I have gotten rid of one musky rod and demoted another to bass size crankbaits because of this problem.
That being said, you can catch a lot of muskies on a mepps, a tallywhacker and a 7" suick.  |
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| Great insight and i do apreciate it all. Im thinking ill use it for the standard bucks maybe upto the 7 inchers and use it for creatures. I fish the top water, jerk and glide bait, and crank and twitch with the shorter rods anyways. |
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