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| Last year, when I was releasing a big pike,about 38'', while musky fishing, I looked around my boat and noticed that there was blood everywhere. I thought it was a clean release, The fish did not have a mark on it. Turns out I was the one bleeding from the hand. I must of caught a gill raker or something. To make a long story short, I was un-able to stop the bleeding and had to wrap it up for the day. After treatment, I thought about all the things that could go wrong while out on the water. How many musky nuts like myself are out on the water without a FIRST AID KIT? I kind of think we are the ''Rambo's'' of freshwater fishing, ignore pain and weather. But this fall, I will have a FIRST AID KIT in the boat with me but they are hard to find. Any ideas out there? |
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Location: Chicago | A member was making some for retail if I remember correctly. do a search for more information.
Here is a link to an old for sale post:
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=22...
Hope this helps.
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Location: Fishing the weeds | Just about any store that has marine or camping supplies has good sized first aid kits. Got mine at Wal-mart. But, I've seen them at Fleet/Farm and Outdoorsmans Warehouse also. Pat |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | never leave home without a 1st aid kit in my truck or tool bag at work.. .no way I would get in the boat without one.... |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | If you can get it a tube of medical grade superglue it's a good addition to the kit, i.e., who needs stinking stitch's. (Superglue was originally developed by the US military for battle field wounds, i.e., a quick way to close them up). I've heard of guy's using the regular stuff too! There was a couple of guy's here who put together a pretty comprehensive first aid kit for muskie fisherman a while back and were offering them for sale. Maybe one will post to this thread.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | You should always have a few essential medical items in your boat, you just never know. Contact TForcier on the board if you are looking for a specific first aid kit for muskie anglers. Otherwise, at a bare minimum buy a small auto one that contains the basics. Being a paramedic I actually have 2% Lidocaine for injection, suture and a stapler right with me. Superglue will work good too, the trick with regular superglue and medical glue like Dermabond or Indermil is you HAVE to squeeze the wound closed first then apply the glue only on the skin over the closed wound, NOT in the wound. If you have questions you can ask me or TForcier or any of the other medical folks here.
Edited by MuskieMedic 9/4/2006 1:20 PM
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Location: NW burbs of Chicago | As it's the time of year when most of you muskie men are replenishing your boat with supplies for the next year--or asking for supplies as holiday presents--I thought it was time to refresh this topic.
We always think we're prepared for emergencies, but this summer Andrew and I learned different when on a release, he tore the area between his thumb and first finger. We have two first aid kids in the boat, but both had been immersed water at some point so everything was corroded and destroyed. Plus, we didn't have any type of ointment or anything to have cleaned out the wound even if we were able to bandage it properly.
So I bought one of Todd Forcier's first aid kits, and let me tell you, just knowing it's in the boat makes me feel better. In addition to coming in a waterproof bag, Todd has thought to put many things into this kit that the lay person most likely wouldn't think of--items to remove things from your eyes, bandages specifically for cuts on the fingertips, etc.
I highly recommend this kit to anyone who is handling any of the sharp objects you guys come across in the boat: lure hooks, muskie teeth, whatever. If we have learned anything this muskie season, it's that safety should come first.
Thanks, Todd.
Pictures of his kits can be found here:
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=22...
Contact him direct by email:
[email protected]
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| I have a First-Aid kit in a small duffel bag that goes from the truck to the boat, it's in the locker room at Taylor's hockey games and has helped out in many places that I never even dreamed of. For pike rake marks, nothing works better than good ol' rubbing alchohol poured right over the whole area. Stings like crazy, but it kills germs better than anything else. They make powder now that is for stopping bleeding, I have several of those, and bandages and Ace bandages and a bag full of gauze, Gauzetape and athletic tape, rolled gauze, gauze squares and another bag of just clean rags. As usual, it's overkill, but it has saved my butt and the butts of others too.
The duffel bag is then placed in a water-proof divers bag to make sure.
Don't skrimp on the First-Aid kit, it could save your life.
What else????? Benadryl, pain killers, sting sticks and spray, bottles of First Aid wash besides the alchohol.
Just keep in mind.....you have to be able to stop bleeding, thoroughly clean a wound, disinfect and more. If you are alone, everything becomes 10X harder, especially if you have to pull out or push through a hook. Stop the bleeding and apply first aid without starting the bleeding over again.
I've used my kit more times than I like to remember, but many of the times it was in other boats, or at boat landings and roadsides, on people who I didn't even know.
You can never have too much, but keep it in Ziplock bags, keep them in a waterproof container and then put that container in a waterproof divers bag.
Guys worry about storrage when they buy a rig. We all want an 8 1/2 foot rod locker, a 60" livewell and more. Mine has a baitwell that I plugged, and I use it for my release tools, first aid, spark plugs and other easy fixes and the tools for them. If you don't have an extra waterproof compartment, find room for a cooler to use for all of the "neccesary extras".
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| Don't think this was mentioned....
Wear gloves while handling your fish. I've used Lindys for the past 8 or so years. Love them. They're pricy, sure, but lots less than your co-pay for an ER visit. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Musky Armor gloves for me. No more gill raker cuts!
Muskie regards,
Larry Ramsell
www.larryramsell.com |
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Location: The desert | Although I agree a first aid kit is a great thing to have in the boat or with you wherever you fish....maybe I'm weird, but if you handle a fish properly there is no need to handle the fish gloves on. At least when holding one for a picture. Sure you can get some scrapes from the gill rakers, but to me thats just a sweet battle scar of sorts, a reminder of the catch. I could just be weird though... |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I also carry one of Todd's first aid kits in my boat at all times. That thing is loaded with stuff, so much so that there is things in there I don't know how to use. 
Pointer, I used to agree with you on the glove thing, but I still had them with for clients. I have started using them more and more as of late. It is amazing how fast things can go from handling the fish properly to blood gushing from an appendage. Musky Armor gloves for me. |
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| Hey Norm, I'm not picking on you, but the kit is only good if you know how to use everything in there. You should take the time to learn what each and every item is, and how to use it. You never know when you might need it. |
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Location: St. Louis, MO., Marco Is., FL, Nestor Falls, ON | MuskieMedic - 9/4/2006 1:19 PM
Superglue will work good too, the trick with regular superglue and medical glue like Dermabond or Indermil is you HAVE to squeeze the wound closed first then apply the glue only on the skin over the closed wound, NOT in the wound. If you have questions you can ask me or TForcier or any of the other medical folks here.
I guess I missed that part about NOT putting it in the wound. I have resorted to Superglue a few times and never had a whole lot of success due to it still bleeding and not allowing the glue to set. Now I know what was wrong. I keep scalpels, sutures and forceps in the first aid kit. I have had to use the scalpels a couple of times to cut along the hook for removal. Some of those big hooks just don't want to push through.
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Whoolligan - 11/15/2007 11:30 AM
Hey Norm, I'm not picking on you, but the kit is only good if you know how to use everything in there. You should take the time to learn what each and every item is, and how to use it. You never know when you might need it.
I say that in jest trying to overemphasis the fact that it is extremely well stocked.  |
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Location: The desert | Hey Norm,
Did the first aid kit come with a life ring? Or a wet suit? Never know if someone wants to take a little dip.... |
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Location: north central wisconsin | accidentially started a new thread before I read this(moderators are welcome to delete and add my 'glove' post here if they choose..). I used ToddF's first aid kit all year, and it really came in handy yesterday. It is a good setup, with nearly everything that you need for most situations. |
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| nwild - 11/15/2007 3:18 PM
Whoolligan - 11/15/2007 11:30 AM
Hey Norm, I'm not picking on you, but the kit is only good if you know how to use everything in there. You should take the time to learn what each and every item is, and how to use it. You never know when you might need it.
I say that in jest trying to overemphasis the fact that it is extremely well stocked. ; )
Then I retract that as being directed at any one person in particular, though I stand by the statement of the kit is only as good as the person using it. You should be familiar with, and able to identify each component with ease. I've actually seen people come in to the ER worse off for people managing their "first aid" incorrectly. Actually, it isn't a bad idea at all to take a first aid class from Red Cross, or another organization. |
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