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Shep
Posted 8/24/2006 7:01 AM (#206329 - in reply to #206325)
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Camera trickery. If it can make a small fish look bigger, it surely can make a big fish look smaller. Right? That's why all my fish look so small! And Louie's, too. Did on prupose, as we are both very humble people.

Look at that size of Jason's hands! Now we all know how his wife picked him out!

Edited by Shep 8/24/2006 7:03 AM
jlong
Posted 8/24/2006 7:05 AM (#206330 - in reply to #206329)
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Location: Black Creek, WI
Shep - 8/24/2006 7:01 AM

Camera trickery. If it can make a small fish look bigger, it surely can make a big fish look smaller. Right?


EXACTLY!!!!!!!

Which is why I find it so amusing when people immediately discredit internet photos. Such a negative attitude sometimes. If someone tries to inflate a fish, who cares??!!!
Donnie3737
Posted 8/24/2006 7:11 AM (#206332 - in reply to #206198)
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I meant inches goof...JLong, you'll never cease to amaze me.

Shep....you're exactly right....all of my fish look small too!!

Donnie
tuffy1
Posted 8/24/2006 7:13 AM (#206333 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: Racine, Wi
Shep, we all know you don't catch big fish. But your SON does. LOL

JLo, I was gonna say the same thing. Good catch. How's this, nobody put the size of the fish in any of the posts you have, and we can all get back to enjoying the beauty of these critters. I don't care how big they are, they all look cool as he!!. (although, catching big fish is fuuuun)
MACK
Posted 8/24/2006 7:22 AM (#206336 - in reply to #206198)
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A LOT of what affects photos of fish....is the camera itself and the lens that that camera is using. Not everyone is using the same camera, with the same size lense, etc. Lighting has a LOT to do with it too. Also distance from the subject matter and the angle to the subject matter. It's all simple, common sense photography basics...

Ever take a picture with a disposable camera? When you're looking through the viewfinder on the camera to take a pic, and you think to yourself that you've got your subject matter framed perfectly in the viewfinder window and then when you get your pics developed and back in your hands, you notice that the photos you were looking so forward to seeing look as if you stood 10-20 more feet away from the subject matter? As if you didn't get close enough. But in your mind you new you were right there.

That's the affects of that camera lense in those cameras. Those type of cameras automatically "push" the subject matter away from the camera by the means of the type/size of the lense that's in those things.

My point is...there'll never be an accurate way of telling a fish's size in any photograph, unless there's an unaltered, legit measuring device within the photo next to the fish.

Look at all the crap the Louis Spray photos have conjured up. This is the same thing.

Musky Trap...regardless of your "trick photography" study and regardless of how big that fish is.....it's still a nice fish. No doubt about it. :thumbsup:
seaman
Posted 8/24/2006 10:05 AM (#206366 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: ontario canada - Well Anderson Indiana now
I'm 6'9" 280lbs, every fish I hold looks small regardless of camera angle!
Guest
Posted 8/24/2006 10:28 AM (#206376 - in reply to #206198)
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"Look at all the crap the Louis Spray photos have conjured up. This is the same thing."

It's not the same thing at all, not even close!

The Louie fish lenghts were calulated by an expert and then reviewed by another expert that comfirming those fish were short .... way short. Many of the leaders of the musky world (Pearson, Bucher, Maina, Saric and others) voiced their opinion that those fish were short.

Heck, even here in this little guessing forum the lenght of the subject fish was pretty darn close.
BALDY
Posted 8/24/2006 10:35 AM (#206377 - in reply to #206376)
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Guest - 8/24/2006 10:28 AM

"Look at all the crap the Louis Spray photos have conjured up. This is the same thing."

It's not the same thing at all, not even close!

The Louie fish lenghts were calulated by an expert and then reviewed by another expert that comfirming those fish were short .... way short. Many of the leaders of the musky world (Pearson, Bucher, Maina, Saric and others) voiced their opinion that those fish were short.

Heck, even here in this little guessing forum the lenght of the subject fish was pretty darn close.


here we go again
Shep
Posted 8/24/2006 10:42 AM (#206379 - in reply to #206377)
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Like I said. Louie and me, both being extremely humble men, purposely made/make our fish look short using trick photography. Louie was a pioneer in this technology and philosophy. That is a fact the so-called experts fail to take into account when this discussion comes up. It's really quite easy to do.

I will conduct a seminar for a fee. I ain't giving away our secrets for free!
Commanche Jim
Posted 8/24/2006 10:51 AM (#206382 - in reply to #206270)
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Location: Orland Park
Oops..............trying to post 2 pictures.

How big are these fish? I'm 6-1, about 220 (1st picture)
The guy (Brian) in the other picture is not.

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Pointerpride102
Posted 8/24/2006 11:10 AM (#206385 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: The desert
Same fish.....38-40 in
BALDY
Posted 8/24/2006 11:11 AM (#206386 - in reply to #206198)
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yep, same fish. as for how big...big enough
Guest
Posted 8/24/2006 11:22 AM (#206391 - in reply to #206198)
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same fish 39-40.5 inches
lambeau
Posted 8/24/2006 11:37 AM (#206392 - in reply to #206198)
Subject: RE: How big is this fish???


but his point is a good one...it looks much bigger in the second picture.
you won't hear me questioning fish sizes in pictures, just way too many variables, and what's the point anyway?
i'm secure enough in my own skin to believe it doesn't diminish my catches is someone else "grows" theirs.
it's hard enough to catch the dang things to worry about if someone else is stretching it by an inch.
stretching it by 20lbs on the other hand...lol.
Commanche Jim
Posted 8/24/2006 11:46 AM (#206393 - in reply to #206392)
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Location: Orland Park
It's the same fish. 41"..........but it does look bigger in the second picture........at least in my eyes. Plus, Brian is holding the fish out more.

I guess I posted these because it's tough to measure a fish from a picture. Depends on the size of the holder, how far out that person is holding it, etc.

Edited by Commanche Jim 8/24/2006 1:23 PM
Pointerpride102
Posted 8/24/2006 12:36 PM (#206400 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: The desert
I'm just happy when I can hold one up for a picture! I could care less if someone doesnt believe it is as big as I say it is. Lets all just go back to fishing!

Mike
bnelson
Posted 8/24/2006 1:32 PM (#206413 - in reply to #206198)
Subject: RE: How big is this fish???


I agree with Lambeau on this one...who cares how big someone else says their fish is? Yah, it does get a little old when you see pics of some fish you know darn well are not as big as they are reported to be... there are alot of guys that round their fish up...some 1/2 inch, some more..some guys do innacurate in the water measurements and "just get it close" type stuff..some don't measure at all but still say what the fish was ...I have seen pics of late of some fish claimed to be over 50 and I know #*^@ well were not over 49..but whatever, I know I measure mine dead nuts on and don't stretch them...why make a great fish, greater by trying to make it more than it was...??? girths are another thing...I don't girth mine for a few reasons but the main reason is I don't want to girth a fat 22 inch girthed fish to have some goomba come along and say his is 24 when we all know it's 20..it's all a big pisssing contest for the most part..I'm happy with my catches and if there are people who feel the need to inflate their sizes and numbers...well they have to live with themselves..not me...
Pics can be very misleading..we all know this.. now lets get back to real topics shall we...

And Donnie you make all those Eagle heavies look like 50's somehow!!
Stein
Posted 8/24/2006 1:35 PM (#206416 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: Nebraska
Here's one for ya. How big is it? My wife's biggest to date.

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esox50
Posted 8/24/2006 1:36 PM (#206418 - in reply to #206198)
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Amen, Mike.
Grunt Lures
Posted 8/26/2006 8:20 PM (#206753 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: Minnesota
48x22... Nice fish!

James
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com




So how big was it? If you knew.
Grunt Lures
Posted 8/26/2006 9:04 PM (#206755 - in reply to #206753)
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Location: Minnesota
As for Jim and Brian....

41s and they do look like the same fish.

James
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com




sworrall
Posted 8/26/2006 11:19 PM (#206760 - in reply to #206755)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
OK, here's a couple...how LONG in inches? Neither was held intentionally at any special angle.

Hints: The fish I am holding...the fish's head was even with or a bit past the tip of my left shoulder, 'behind me' if you will. Sue's fish was out in front of her some, so the perspective is totally different.


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esox50
Posted 8/26/2006 11:43 PM (#206761 - in reply to #206198)
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That top one looks familiar, Steve!

50" and 41-42"?
Mauser
Posted 8/27/2006 12:43 AM (#206765 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: Southern W.Va.
52.5 and 41. I'd be proud to catch either, 3 weeks of 90+ heat, it's killing me.

Mauser
MuskieSlayer
Posted 8/27/2006 9:55 PM (#206840 - in reply to #206753)
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
Since someone posted pictures about the size of the person affecting how big the fish looks...I'm 6'4", 250. I thought this fish was huge but after seeing the pictures when I got home I was a little disappointed. Thankfully the second pic really shows the girth. 48"


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Stein
Posted 8/28/2006 7:24 AM (#206859 - in reply to #206753)
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Location: Nebraska
Grunt Lures - 8/26/2006 8:20 PM

48x22... Nice fish!

James
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com


Believe it or not, it was only a 42" fish. It sure looked bigger and I questioned my tape reading abilities after I was the pics. She was thrilled with it, though.



Edited by Stein 8/28/2006 7:27 AM
sworrall
Posted 8/28/2006 8:35 AM (#206869 - in reply to #206859)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The fish I posted:

The Goon fish was over 50" according to Jack, my friend who taped her quickly before I tossed her back in the pond. I thought she was a little short, and he dressed me down pretty good for saying that. Doesn't matter a whit, really, but she was a 49.something to a little over 50. Sues fish was 39".
JohnMD
Posted 8/28/2006 8:59 AM (#206878 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: Algonquin, ILL
Not to offend anyone but does size really matter, as far as I am concerned they are ALL NICE FISH and I Congratulate each and evey one of you for a job well done

Guest
Posted 8/28/2006 9:07 AM (#206880 - in reply to #206198)
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Steve, 47" and 41" would be my guess. There is nothing in the picture with you to get a good gauge off of though, finger, lure ect.
lobi
Posted 8/28/2006 3:01 PM (#206936 - in reply to #206198)
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Location: Holly, MI
How about this fish??

I'll give you a hint my 7 year old is very big for his age.
He goes 6' 9" and 258lbs. (that is a big fish).


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