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jim casteel
Posted 2/25/2006 11:13 AM (#179545)
Subject: trolling speed




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Location: oak lawn IL
what speed would you troll at in 40-50 deg water
BenR
Posted 2/25/2006 6:38 PM (#179587 - in reply to #179545)
Subject: RE: trolling speed


from 2.5-7or8mph...it can really vary...I would start at around 3-4 and vary up and down until you have it dialed in..Ben
ToddM
Posted 2/25/2006 6:42 PM (#179590 - in reply to #179545)
Subject: RE: trolling speed





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Location: oswego, il
Depending on what boat and motor you have will determin what your initial speed will be. Some boats in gear are already at 3mph. Start slower and work your way up. General thinking is slower when it's cold, start there but don't stay there if nothing is working. Bait depth is just as critical.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 2/25/2006 9:14 PM (#179621 - in reply to #179590)
Subject: RE: trolling speed





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
Bait depth, speed and lure selection all come into play.

Most lures will have a sweet spot they produce best at. Most are 2 to 3.5mph. Lots can go up to 5mph. Once you get above 5 or 6 you need to stick to the lures that will work best at those speeds.

At the PMTT finals in NY the water temps were under 50 degrees and the winners were speed trolling open water with Tuff Shads. Outside the box of normal thinking but it worked extremely well for them. They rocked everyone with 7 fish or something like that. Windy, snow 30 degrees and speed trolling. The Tuff Shads work best at higher speeds.............Is that why they worked? We were running them around 3mph and scored on outside the weed edges, they were going down the middle of the lake over 80ft of water 8 to 12 ft down at 5mph and smoked everyone.

I like the 2.5 to 4 mph in southern wisconsin. 4 to 5 seems to work south of the boarder in IL.

Best advice is to find the hot baits on the lake you fish and test to see the maximum speed of those lures. This is when the lures starts to kick out and not run true. Slow down just a bit and thats the best speed of that lure. When you turn the lure on the outside will run wild and the inside one will slow down. Work them in a S troll and your lures will get reaction strikes from following fish.

Straight runs will get you less hits. Mix it up. Start as slow as you can and speed up until your lures will not run true and straight. Then maybe change baits and keep going higher with the speed with the next selection of baits that can run faster. Speed in higher water temps gets fish to react because they don't have time to think about it. Speed works............some run 6 to 10mph.

Edited by Mikes Extreme 2/26/2006 7:18 PM
todd_yester
Posted 2/26/2006 9:11 AM (#179675 - in reply to #179545)
Subject: RE: trolling speed




Posts: 148


Location: pittsburgh, pa
That is very typical for Chautauqua. I fish fish it all fall till the end of november and troll 5mph all day trolling tuff shads 30 foot down. As far as trolling speeds in 40-50 degree water we normally stick with 3.8-4.3 after you break 50 we go 5mph and dont go slower than that.

Todd
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RAZE1
Posted 2/26/2006 9:58 AM (#179682 - in reply to #179545)
Subject: RE: trolling speed





Posts: 938


Location: NeverNever Lake
If the only tool in your box is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail!

Remeber those higher trolling speeds gets your baits around more fish! If the fish are on "the feed", common sense shold tell us to get our baits around as many as possible in the shortest amount of time...Tie on a small school of Super Shad Raps and go like HE double hockey sticks..........................
jim casteel
Posted 2/26/2006 5:14 PM (#179732 - in reply to #179545)
Subject: RE: trolling speed




Posts: 69


Location: oak lawn IL
thanks guys
i'm new at trolling and muskies so with that said my first day out---- the water was 41deg in the morning 42 the rest of the day.
i tried 2mph up to 3mph thinking cold=slow i did find some water that was almost 44 deg -trolled the heck out of it but i didn't even think to speed up or try the scool of shad trick.
hopefully my next time out i can get a little closer to scoring.
thanks
jim
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