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Location: Des Moines IA | I tried the Bucher sucker rig last fall and all the sucker did was spin around in a circle totally twisting my line. So I hand tied a quick set rig out of 100 lb hard mono... Tied the big lip hook up front ... then attatched a single treblehookand put it in the top fin of the sucker..... Still didn't work? I didn't use a bobber? Would the bobber help? Tried again on Pewaukee for the opener, even with the smaller 6-8 inch suckers it still did nothing but spin? How do you guys set up a quick strike rig? Brands? Bobbers? Make your own? Sick and tired of twisting all my line? Thanks in advance ...... |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Mike, what size hook are you using for the back. The ones I tie, are with 90lb 7 strand, with either 1, or 1/0 hooks. (I think gamagatzus) I take a split ring, and attach the wire to that, and a snap. The snap goes in the lip, so it stays a bit more weedless. If I am fishing with smaller suckers, I use one treble, if bigger, I will attach a second. I then put the weight above the leader.
Make sure you aren't moving too fast either if you are drifting or trolling. I have never had any problems with sucker spinning, so not sure what would cause that.
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | The cause of the spinning is when the sucker is not straight. Make sure when you rig the sucker the sucker is straight. If the sucker has slight bend in it spinning will happen.
I run them all the time and the only time they spin is when the hooks are placed in a way where the sucker will not swim straight and free.
Piss me off, last night I lost a fish at the back of the boat on one of my sucker rigs. Thats 2 out of 3 hits boated. Last Spring I was 11 for 12 and the 12th one was lost by a 12 year olds hook-set. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Mike makes "the" point. it's amazing how an unbalanced hook placement can take the life out of a sucker. you've really got to pay attention to where those hooks are placed and test his swimming position before letting him move out away from the boat. i make my own quick-strike rigs and use smaller gamakatsu hooks to reduce the amount of fatigue on the sucker. so far i've been happy with the hookup percentages against larger hooks that are usually on the store-bought variety. |
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Location: Mendota Heights, MN | So what technique / style rigging do you prefer for attaching the sucker to the rig. For example, Herbie Rigged using large single hook through suckers snout, or Mania Rig with rubber band through nasal cavity.
I have used both, and while I find the hook through the snout is easier to rig, the rubber band through the nasal cavity seems to allow the sucker to swim more naturally.
Any thoughts?
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Location: Racine, Wi | For sucker rigs, I use a split ring to attach to the leader to the rig, then I put either a small treble on the split ring, or a snap. Then push that through the suckers lips. I don't use the rubber band anymore, as that is way too much work, and the single hooks just give too much hardware. Hopefully that makes sense. |
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Location: Mendota Heights, MN | How about the addition of a spinner blade on the leader. I used this quite a bit lasat year and found it very productive. i was actually able to jig a large fish back to the rig when it first swam past. may not have been the blade but it sure flashed.
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | Jonnysled, we must be on the same track.
I too use Gamakatsu hooks on my rigs. I also use Owner hooks in the Fall when the size of the suckers are increased and I can get away with heaver hooks.
Spring time is smaller suckers and quality hooks. Increased hookups will happen with little suckers and sticky hooks. Gamakatsu in the no 1 size work for me along with 7 to 8-inch suckers. Big fish will eat little suckers.
Heavy hooks will hinder the suckers life and free swimming.
I also use multiple trebles for an outstanding hookup ratio. There is no waiting after the fish takes a sucker in my boat. Click, reel, set, fight, net, release. Next |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | jonnysled - 5/16/2005 2:24 PM
Mike makes "the" point. it's amazing how an unbalanced hook placement can take the life out of a sucker. you've really got to pay attention to where those hooks are placed and test his swimming position before letting him move out away from the boat. i make my own quick-strike rigs and use smaller gamakatsu hooks to reduce the amount of fatigue on the sucker. so far i've been happy with the hookup percentages against larger hooks that are usually on the store-bought variety.
i don't qualify on the discussion anymore cuz sucker fishing to me is cold and boring but using small gami's to take stress off a sucker and keep em balanced was the ticket for me back in the day when i did fish for muskies ... |
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