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Location: US | I believe only Thorne Bros, Chaos, and tackle industries offer 10' rods, I believe chaos is the only company that offers 10' rods with a revolution reel seat. Are there any others with the revolution reel seat? Has anyone tried a 10' rod and didnt like it? It would be used as a bucktail rod. |
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| I have a 9'8" TB XH. When I ordered it, they couldn't make it any longer than that without making it a lot heavier. In the summer, I use blades about 90% of of the time, and I can't say enough good things about the rod.
I also have a 9' Chaos XXH rod, which I use mostly for big jerkbaits. It's much heavier than the TB XH power-wise but not weight-wise. It's also great for big blades but the 8" difference is very noticeable during figure 8's. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I have a St Croix Legend 10' Blade Master. At first I hated it. Then I added weight to back of the rod so that it balanced better, now it is a great blade rod. I know it doesn't have the Revolution seat you are asking about, but be aware that some 10' rods maybe very front heavy in your hand. I added 4 oz to make it usable to me. |
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| Not sure about the real seat but St Croix does offer a 10' rod. |
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Location: PA Angler | I’ve been looking at blanks around 10’ just going to build my own if I get a good price. |
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Location: Canada | In past two seasons have broken both a 10'XH and a 10'6"XXH TI rod on ~40" fish that hit boatside. In both cases snapped about 12-18" down from the tip. I've also been using the (original series) Chaos XH 9'6". The TI rods are noticeably faster (flex near the tip) than the Chaos rods (more parabolic). I'm not going to buy another long TI rod but it's entirely possible that the issue lies with how I personally manoeuvre the rod with a fish on boatside that just doesn't work with the TI blank. That said, I got a 47" on the 10' TI boat side with no problem. I guess my point is, to your question, that after years of using the slingblade and the big nasty, I've found that for me an extra 1-2' of rod is great for figure 8s but makes for a very different experience when you hook up boatside. For my tastes, I'm happy to stick to 9'6" max for a bucktail rod. Unless I went really high end where I could have more faith in the blank (ie St Croix). |
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Location: NorthCentral WI | mcnewbski - 8/26/2023 10:47 AM
In past two seasons have broken both a 10'XH and a 10'6"XXH TI rod on ~40" fish that hit boatside. In both cases snapped about 12-18" down from the tip. I've also been using the (original series) Chaos XH 9'6". The TI rods are noticeably faster (flex near the tip) than the Chaos rods (more parabolic). I'm not going to buy another long TI rod but it's entirely possible that the issue lies with how I personally manoeuvre the rod with a fish on boatside that just doesn't work with the TI blank. That said, I got a 47" on the 10' TI boat side with no problem. I guess my point is, to your question, that after years of using the slingblade and the big nasty, I've found that for me an extra 1-2' of rod is great for figure 8s but makes for a very different experience when you hook up boatside. For my tastes, I'm happy to stick to 9'6" max for a bucktail rod. Unless I went really high end where I could have more faith in the blank (ie St Croix).
I'm somewhat surprised TI rods are still experiencing this issue. I had a few of their 9' rods back 10-15 years ago and actually loved the action of the rod but they would always break in the same area you described. After a couple replacements the problem persisted and the warranty claim became burdensome. I was recently looking at their 10'+ length options but after reading your post I will definitely reconsider. Since moving away from TI I have used and abused some old Black Rivers, Okumas, and Chaos rods and haven't broke a single one. Which tells me there is definitely an issue with those TI blanks that it happens on such a consistent basis. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | TI sold a couple of years ago, and they changed rod makers overseas. |
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| Why in the hell does anyone need a 10' rod? Except maybe old timers using cane poles for bullheads or Asian long-distance surfcasters. Or Steelhead guys with 10' whips because they have to use 6# line for 10# fish in a river's heavy current. How do you guys safely transport 10' rods? Are they all 2-piece so set up at the landing and then break down again at the landing? My Yar Craft 209tfx can't store anything bigger than 8.5'. Newer boats can store one piece 10' rods?
I don't get it. Especially in the performance department. Why is a 10' rod better than an 8' rod? If longer is better, and you have to break down for transport, why not 16' rods? |
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Location: MN | Longer casts, bigger wider deeper figure 8s. The tradeoffs are more torque needed, harder to net solo, transport is harder. I think 9'6" - 10' is the sweet spot and use all 10' rods currently. Much longer than that and doing figure 8 in shallow water (or on the surface) or netting by yourself becomes increasingly difficult.
Telescoping rods shorten a little for transport. I usually leave mine extended and lay them in the boat (not rod locker), unless it's a longer trip. A 10' one piece would be more limiting, as fitting into vehicles becomes a problem.
I use the TI stuff and have seen the same problems above. They seem to occasionally get bad batches of blanks. Last year I had 4 relatively new rods break about as described above. To me it seems if the rods makes it past 5-10 days of use, they are good to go, but I'm always nervous taking out a newer one. Now that the price is higher, I have a hard time recommending them for this reason. |
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Location: Canada | Ranger - 9/6/2023 2:53 PM
Why in the hell does anyone need a 10' rod?
Fair question: it's entirely about boatside action for me. Most of my fish come from the figure 8 and an extra 1-2' of rod in the water is amazing. I'm a tall guy and my deck is a ways from the water. |
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| Ranger - 9/6/2023 2:53 PM
Why in the hell does anyone need a 10' rod? Except maybe old timers using cane poles for bullheads or Asian long-distance surfcasters. Or Steelhead guys with 10' whips because they have to use 6# line for 10# fish in a river's heavy current. How do you guys safely transport 10' rods? Are they all 2-piece so set up at the landing and then break down again at the landing? My Yar Craft 209tfx can't store anything bigger than 8.5'. Newer boats can store one piece 10' rods?
I don't get it. Especially in the performance department. Why is a 10' rod better than an 8' rod? If longer is better, and you have to break down for transport, why not 16' rods?
Less effort when casting, less effort with figure 8's. And us steelhead guys use 13ft rods  I love my 9'6 MH Telescopic St.Croix Slingshot II. It makes everything easier compared to the Big Nasty I was fishing last year. As for transportation, it goes in the boat just like the 8 and 9ft rods do. You aren't putting these in rod lockers. |
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| I have a 9' and a couple 8's and all the others seem short now. I love my long rods ,but they are a pain in the butt to travel with and even to bring in the cabin at night. I've been in cabins with low ceilings and how to leave my rod across the back of the couch. I don't pull a boat and coming from Colorado to Wisconsin/Minnesota I put it a rented SUV and it works Ok.
This fall I'm traveling with a friend in his rig and he already told me he does not have room for my 9'. Hopefully one of my 8's will fit if not I'll have to fish with the guides outfits. (I'd rather fish with my own rod and reel) Being average sized guy at best and fishing out of a lot of row boats low to the water I don't need a ten |
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| Agree on 9.5 to 10 feet being that sweet spot for many presentations. Are they needed to catch fish? absolutely not. Probably not needed at all by guys fishing small rivers in small boats or lakes with smaller fish. Or guys that fish a ton of big gliders and jerks maybe
But it’s a game changer for bigger water, bigger boats, and big fish water. Casting is part of it, but mostly it’s the figure 8s in my opinion. Those huge 8s are key to getting big fish to eat boatside
I thought 9’ would be my limit, but not anymore. I run a 9’8” predator Heavy-2 and a 9’6” predator XH for most presentations. Long rods are amazing for bucktails, cranks, and other straight line presentations that have a lot of boatside action.
And yes these rods (especially one piece) are a pain to store, transport, and get into cabin at night. Totally worth it in my opinion. |
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| Well, ok, all that makes sense. Thanks! |
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| I have no problem fitting my 10' St. Croix's in the rod locker of my Alumacraft 205 Sport, I can fit a whole pile of them in the side locker and a whole pile of 9'ers in the center rod locker. |
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| Bigstick56 - 9/13/2023 1:36 PM
I have no problem fitting my 10' St. Croix's in the rod locker of my Alumacraft 205 Sport, I can fit a whole pile of them in the side locker and a whole pile of 9'ers in the center rod locker.
Did you just tell me I need a bigger boat? Ok fine! If I have to LMAO! |
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