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| Curious about your thoughts, what will muskie fishing be like in the distant future? Like 100 and 500 years from now. What will be the most influential variables/trends between now and then? |
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| Chat GPT will be dictating all of the bite windows. |
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| In 100 years, the biggest variable will be climate change. If temps warm too much, that would impact fishing. We booked a moose hunt this fall on the lower Yukon River in Alaska. The outfitter is a guy in his mid 70s and has been doing this for around 40 years and hunted the area for over 50 years. We had a conference call with him and when asking about weather, he said the temps have increased to the point that it seldom gets below freezing during the time we will be there, where 50 years ago it was common to wake up to skim ice on the sloughs. He also has to make arrangements to get meat out quicker because of the warmer weather. Not sure why, but Alaska has seen more temp change than most other areas.
He did say the time of the rut has not changed, that is apparently daylight length dependent, not temp.
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| Well, if we don't get our act together with the environment and climate change I don't expect there to be muskies in a lot of the places we fish in 100 years. In 500 years? Hard to say with any certainty but my the I suspect we will have caused our own extinction by then. Whatever is left after we are gone will probably fare pretty well. |
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| You will have electronics to show you where every muskie is in the lake with it's length, girth and estimated weight. Heck that might be in 5-10 years the way things are going. |
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| My retirement funds will be gone, may need a second cataract surgery, shoulder surgery, and iron clad boat to ram the Wake boats. And to top it off Muskies will be extinct do to warming. |
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Location: SE, WI. | In 100 years every fish will be A silver musky loaded With Mercury Levels. If there’s 300,000 Variables in Musky Biometrics Now, probably 3 Zillion Variables in 500 years. Nobody will leave their house to fish, Everything will be “ WEE FISHING” …;) And Someone will catch a New World Record Daily! And I will Still Not Be Target Fishing:) … ….in 500 years, there will be No More Shoreline due to the Erosion of Shoreline by Wakeboats ;( JD
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Location: Chisholm, MN | 100 years - not much difference. 500 years - there will be no intelligent life on the planet. |
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Location: Walker, MN | Due to fishing pressure, they will be the fish of 100,000 casts. |
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Location: Bloomington, MN | The Billy Finn Bucktail, Robert's Mud Puppy, and the Burmek B-1 will be the go-to lures! |
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Location: oswego, il | AI will have created perfect lakes and rivers that is if it doesn't figure out how to save us from ourselves. Electronics will be something we could not fathom, so will boats, their power and how we get from place to place. |
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Location: Delavan, WI | Fishing will be banned by then, maybe even sooner than you think could only be 20 years away |
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| We are a negative bunch...
So here we go
500 years from now:
We have terraformed Mars and are working on getting to Alpha Centauri. Since.there was no life on Mars when we began, we stock the new lakes and rivers with the best fish in each climate/biome. Also, we had already staked out where the best mineral deposits and farmland were before hand, so huge Planetary Parks exist where people can go to remove.themselves from urban sprawl and responsibly harvest as desired. Muskies and taimen flourish in the sub-arctic parks.
Also, Earth gets less crowded so less crowded here and less pollution. |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | Disney should have us animatronic fish by then to keep us amused, m |
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Location: Selkirk, Manitoba | Kirby Budrow - 5/3/2023 10:02 PM
100 years - not much difference. 500 years - there will be no intelligent life on the planet.
Agreed (to some extent). After Terminator and his outfit have cleansed us, they will come to the conclusion job done and time to turn themselves off and let the world regenerate. Some intelligent animals will still be hanging around...
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | I truly doubt I'll give a #*^@! |
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Location: PA Angler | Have to agree with some of the others. Climate change, electronics, and lures that swim by themselves. |
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Location: Selkirk, Manitoba | FlyPiker - 5/4/2023 8:49 AM
We are a negative bunch...
So here we go
500 years from now:
We have terraformed Mars and are working on getting to Alpha Centauri. Since.there was no life on Mars when we began, we stock the new lakes and rivers with the best fish in each climate/biome. Also, we had already staked out where the best mineral deposits and farmland were before hand, so huge Planetary Parks exist where people can go to remove.themselves from urban sprawl and responsibly harvest as desired. Muskies and taimen flourish in the sub-arctic parks.
Also, Earth gets less crowded so less crowded here and less pollution.
Need some optimists, yes.
If we are going to space with biomes it is more likely to be "Silent Running" (1972).
Interesting how that generation of writers already predicting we were going to sh-t in our own bed, corporate greed over the wellbeing of the commons
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Location: E. Tenn | There will still be whining about "those muskies are eating all my walleyes".
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Location: WI | I doubt machines will musky fish. |
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| All the muskies will be controlled by Immortan Joe. We shall fish to Valhalla, shiny and chrome. |
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| miket55 - 5/4/2023 10:58 AM
There will still be whining about "those muskies are eating all my walleyes".
Nope. By then warming waters will have eliminated walleye in the lower 48, so the whine will change to " the musky are eating all the bass". |
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Location: Twin Cities Metro | In 100 years social norms will have changed a great deal regarding our relationship to nature. I would guess fishing and hunting will be very much out of fashion due to the broad recognition that animals are not so very different from people. At that point, muskies and their habitat will likely be thriving but people will not be interested in sticking hooks in their faces for sport. More likely they'll be interested in viewing them in their natural habitat like driving through Yellowstone to see bison.
In 500 years? How well do you think people of the 1500s could have predicted what people of the 2000s would be interested in, much less the health of a (then) treasured ecosystem? |
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Location: mercer wi | They probably won't identify as muskies. And we'll all be dead. The human species will be gone because of our own Righteousness. |
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| Ranger, I think you'll see that kind of thinking go by the wayside sooner rather than later. The good old boys are pretty #*^@ old, and their younger supporters are pretty #*^@ dumb. In a generation or two there aren't gonna be enough rich old white guys to keep other rich old white guys in charge. |
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| All of our social shortcomings are secondary, or tertiary, The crux of the biscuit, as they say, is that their are way, way, way, too many people on the planet. We are outstripping our environment. We can't possibly maintain the current population, based on the current consumption of our resources. Add to that, the population is growing exponentially. If you know anything about zoology, whenever a species overpopulates their environment, and there is nothing to keep the population in check, there will be a major crash, in that population. There can be many ways that crash can manifest, but it will happen. The best we can do, with cooperation, is put off the inevitable. Could happen in less than a hundred years. Probably between a hundred and 500. In 500 years, if anyone is catching muskie, they are doing it for food.
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Location: E. Tenn | North of 8 - 5/4/2023 5:01 PM
miket55 - 5/4/2023 10:58 AM
There will still be whining about "those muskies are eating all my walleyes".
Nope. By then warming waters will have eliminated walleye in the lower 48, so the whine will change to " the musky are eating all the bass".
Down here they're already whining about the muskies eating all the crappies.. |
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Location: NW WI | miket55 - 5/8/2023 10:20 PM
North of 8 - 5/4/2023 5:01 PM
miket55 - 5/4/2023 10:58 AM
There will still be whining about "those muskies are eating all my walleyes".
Nope. By then warming waters will have eliminated walleye in the lower 48, so the whine will change to " the musky are eating all the bass".
Down here they're already whining about the muskies eating all the crappies..
The analogy I use when I hear this is as such "The muskies are also the ones depleting the biosphere and picking apples off the apple tree". |
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| TCESOX - 5/8/2023 9:42 PM
All of our social shortcomings are secondary, or tertiary, The crux of the biscuit, as they say, is that their are way, way, way, too many people on the planet. We are outstripping our environment. We can't possibly maintain the current population, based on the current consumption of our resources. Add to that, the population is growing exponentially. If you know anything about zoology, whenever a species overpopulates their environment, and there is nothing to keep the population in check, there will be a major crash, in that population. There can be many ways that crash can manifest, but it will happen. The best we can do, with cooperation, is put off the inevitable. Could happen in less than a hundred years. Probably between a hundred and 500. In 500 years, if anyone is catching muskie, they are doing it for food.
Disease, food supply, and war are the ways our populations are keep in check.
With the amount of people on earth something going to give. (but give it will)
Way too many of us!
It's been said Earth will al way's be here but man will not. There have been like six mass die off's in the Earth's history. As far as Earth goes it will be gone in 4 1/2 billion years (along with Mercury, Venus, and Mars) when the Sun Expands. |
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| In the USA, we are seeing a decline in the average life expectancy. Short term, COVID had an impact but the life style of the average citizen has more impact long term. About 20 years ago I attended a Wellness seminar where the featured speaker said the nation was looking at an epidemic of Type II diabetes if we did not change our diet and exercise habits. He was right. For over 30 years I bought health insurance for my employer, along with senior management. Starting a little over 10 years ago, the number one drug being paid for was for diabetes. The agent said that was common among his many clients. The insurance provider said the same thing and offered a number of different incentives to participants if they would just get a wellness check, complete a health screen, etc. Didn't have much of an impact.
As a nation, our life choices are costing a fortune in medical costs and shorter life spans. Instead of the plague or some other health catastrophe, we will thin the herd
with sugar, greasy food and sitting on the couch. |
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