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Message Subject: Wire line (monel) trolling
joh10891
Posted 11/27/2022 11:29 AM (#1014909)
Subject: Wire line (monel) trolling




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I know folks have posted about it before, but figured I'd post about it to see if folks have any new comments. One article I read about Cullen's recent world-class monster fish stated that he was trolling wire, and using his deep lip model to get deeper. This got me thinking about wire again. For folks new to this- I'm talking about your trolling mainline being a wire line, like 45lb monel, rather than something like a braided line. Seems like I've mainly only seen two groups using it.

1. The deep trolling, shoal-bangers out east trolling 30 ft down, on places like St. Lawrence or Georgian Bay

and, to a lesser extent,
2. shortline trollers out east using smaller shallow baits (Wileys, etc) on smaller-fish water

I never see folks in the midwest, or northwest ontario, trolling with wire. Obvious advantage is getting baits slightly deeper, but the mysterious element is the supposed vibration of the metal wire in the water. Folks will say "I had a 3 fish day all on wire, it makes a difference", but this alleged vibration/harmonic element seems to be pretty controversial.

Somewhat rambling post, but I'm just wondering if wire-line has a place in this day and age with thin superbraids and things like snap on weights if it's only advantage is getting baits slightly deeper (at the cost of hassle and wire line management), or if there's some truth to the mysterious wire vibration argument. If someone isn't trying to long-line and max out the depth of their bait, is there any advantage at all to wire?
chuckski
Posted 11/27/2022 11:45 AM (#1014910 - in reply to #1014909)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




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I watched guy's do years ago on In-Fisherman and I know you can get your lure deeper on a shorter line but beside that I know nothing. Hoping to see the replies I have a lot to learn on this subject. (even how you attach your lure)
joh10891
Posted 11/27/2022 12:10 PM (#1014911 - in reply to #1014910)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




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(made a duplicate comment by mistake, please deleted this comment)
joh10891
Posted 11/27/2022 12:12 PM (#1014912 - in reply to #1014910)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




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chuckski- if you wanna learn the basics Gregg Thomas has a pretty helpful youtube video about wire-line trolling (knots, special rod tip required, etc). Aside from that, I haven't seen too many details. That being said, I've never tried it either so it's all new to me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3G4B_YtoNg
horsehunter
Posted 11/27/2022 1:07 PM (#1014915 - in reply to #1014909)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




Location: Eastern Ontario
Wire line scares muskies tell everyone you know
joh10891
Posted 11/27/2022 1:16 PM (#1014916 - in reply to #1014915)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




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horsehunter mail me some hosebaits and then I can delete the post or change it to "wire line is outdated, nobody should use it, scares fish especially in clear water"
Masqui-ninja
Posted 11/27/2022 8:19 PM (#1014926 - in reply to #1014909)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling





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Location: Walker, MN
I'm curious about it too. Bill Hamblin mentioned wire line trolling in his book 120 days, and I have heard a lot about it on the Backlash Podcast from Mike Lazaris, Brad Hoppe, and Gregg Thomas. I remember the In-Fish stuff too.

My biggest reservation is: Trolled fish roll-up in the line, one of the reasons I use long Flouro or Mono for leader. It seems like wire would wrap and cut-up fish when trolling...am I wrong?
Headlock
Posted 12/6/2022 10:31 PM (#1016195 - in reply to #1014909)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




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Not a lot of info about it. Started using it years ago and it is awesome in certain situations. Less line out and different actions.
madmusky
Posted 12/6/2022 11:00 PM (#1016196 - in reply to #1016195)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




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does anyone think the diameter difference in suffix lead core gives it an advantage?
RyanJoz
Posted 12/8/2022 9:20 AM (#1016227 - in reply to #1014909)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




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Location: Mt. Zion, IL
Find a spoonplugger. Many of us use or have used wire line for years. It’s not rocket science. Typically less than half the line out to get to the same depth.
RyanJoz
Posted 12/8/2022 9:25 AM (#1016228 - in reply to #1014909)
Subject: Re: Wire line (monel) trolling




Posts: 1670


Location: Mt. Zion, IL
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