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Message Subject: Jointed glides or swimbaits
Pa Tigers n trout
Posted 3/8/2022 4:54 PM (#1003311)
Subject: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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Location: Central Pennsylvania
Anyone ever try stuff like the S-Wavers, various savage gear hard swimbaits, Deps baits, or even the fancy custom swimmers for tigers or musky or even pike? I’m tempted to pick some up but it seems nobody uses em!
Masqui-ninja
Posted 3/8/2022 7:46 PM (#1003323 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits





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Location: Walker, MN
Following.
I have bought a bunch of these for Stripers and largemouths the past few years, but haven't tossed them for muskies much. I know out west, some nice tigers have been caught on single jointed "glides" painted up like the Kokanee that swim in those waters.
killdeer
Posted 3/8/2022 8:55 PM (#1003324 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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I have thrown some Deps and S-Waivers and Anedote glides. They have a very rhythmic lazy swim to them , you can add twitching and speed changes to get some erratic moves out of them. But overall I still prefer a reef hawg or old Eddie bait over most when they want that kind of a lure.
Pa Tigers n trout
Posted 3/9/2022 7:00 PM (#1003353 - in reply to #1003324)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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Location: Central Pennsylvania
Do you ever find that there’s a time and place for these sort of baits? They’re barely utilized for esox from what I’ve seen and that’s what makes me want to try them.
7.62xJay
Posted 3/10/2022 12:14 AM (#1003355 - in reply to #1003353)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits





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Location: NW WI
Pa Tigers n trout - 3/9/2022 7:00 PM
They’re barely utilized for esox from what I’ve seen and that’s what makes me want to try them.


I think that's cultural separation more than anything. Think about it, online anyways Tackle Warehouse doesn't hardly carry what TRO, Musky Shop, MTO, and Thorne carry. Same applies vice versa. There's TONS of Musky sized jointed swimbaits/glides marketed to "massive largemouth" angling. As well as we have our 4-6" cranks and jerks for spring Musky that would do just fine for Largies as well.

My brother and I are both big fans of multi jointed swim/glide baits. Preferably these cheap Asian ones in the pics. I have some triple jointed Sebiles that have brought in pike but no Musky. My brother has a collection of Savage Gears 4plays, his words "dull smooth swimming action, short glide, good for quick snapping jerks".
If your interested man, I'd say try it. Jointed cranks, jerk baits, glide baits, swimbaits, are all successful Esox bait styles. With the bait style ur talking, in my opinion, your mixing all 4 attributes of each.



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Pa Tigers n trout
Posted 3/10/2022 5:42 AM (#1003358 - in reply to #1003355)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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Location: Central Pennsylvania
Well I wanted to gauge effectiveness first cause musky lures already steal my money so I don’t need more lures that fail to catch need fish haha. The GBC swather glidebait catches my eye at 5.5” and 1oz, plus a very nice carp type profile. Any specific ones I might want to try? I'd prefer to try the smaller 5-7" baits.
madmusky
Posted 3/10/2022 2:04 PM (#1003370 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: RE: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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With some of the baits listed, or bass style hard sided bass swimbaits, when clipping them into traditional musky gear/set ups, the leaders tend to affect the action.

They seem to run best with no leader/lighter line
7.62xJay
Posted 3/11/2022 12:46 AM (#1003386 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits





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Location: NW WI
Dude, that's a sweet jointed glide. But not for $80 in my opinion, especially if your just looking for proof of concept.

Here's 2 cheap alternatives
https://alternativefishinglures.com/products/leviathan-upcycled-ocea...
https://www.alternativelures.com/swimbaits-only
monsterlures
Posted 3/11/2022 7:09 PM (#1003426 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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They are fairly popular for pike in Europe.

Alot of the savagear stuff is marketed for pike for example.

This video is a fun example of what smaller lure makers design for pike here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcXL3BjgRcE

Pa Tigers n trout
Posted 3/12/2022 4:13 PM (#1003448 - in reply to #1003426)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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Location: Central Pennsylvania
That’s a crazy bait! I think I’m gonna have to pick up one of the lucky lures if swimbaits do turn out being a good bait here!
ToddM
Posted 3/13/2022 12:10 AM (#1003451 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits





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Location: oswego, il
Tried an.S.Wavdd I thought the bait worked too slow. The Savage Gear darts side consider very well. I really like that open mouth 7" trout you can buy everywhere is a.variety of colors. Loud rattle and about as good an action as they come. Even the bass pro jointed glider is pretty decent.
dickP
Posted 3/13/2022 6:22 AM (#1003454 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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If it moves......
Dick G
Posted 3/13/2022 5:03 PM (#1003464 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: RE: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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Until I sold the business, I was the creator and manufacturer of the Striker jerk/glide bait and others under the Dick Gries Tackle banner. Started in the mid 80's. Until that time, the only other lure out there was Bill Looney's Amma Bama, probably the first drop belly glide bait in musky size lures, and an excellent performer. I consider him to be the Grandfather of this style/action type lure. Maybe I was number two, if I'm lucky. All that said, it seems the musky world is awash of this style and action bait. Drop bellies galore. That's great!! Now it's up to the angler to choose between 'me too' and
"wow, this is something special and different"....Lot of fun figuring that out, but also expensive..There seems to be a resurgence in the drop belly glide bait interest, even with Bass fishermen. In the past year, I have seen just two lures that absolutely trip my trigger as far as action, movement, and versatility. And I've been to more than a few of these rodeos. And there are probably more to come. After all, you can only do so much with a bucktail..
RJ_692
Posted 3/14/2022 7:34 AM (#1003475 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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in the 5-7" range the an S-waver, storm arashi, or g ratt sneaky pete will get it done and are reasonable priced and are constructed well enough to handle bigger predators. most are designed to fish with no leader so you need to run pretty light wire. I haywire twist directly to the bait to keep as light as possible.

i built myself a larger single joint glider last year and definitely moved some fish on it. Have a few more tweeks for rev 2. I think there is some room to grow in the muskie world for this style of bait.
Pa Tigers n trout
Posted 3/14/2022 11:31 AM (#1003483 - in reply to #1003475)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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Location: Central Pennsylvania
I think there is absolutely a lot of room for this style of bait to grow, there's very little content in terms of swimbaiting muskies on youtube or google.
jonsie
Posted 3/14/2022 11:32 AM (#1003484 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits




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Location: South Central PA
The lipless Savage 4 plays in the large size work really well for me. You can make them do a complete 180 and face the following ski. In fact almost all my catches with them - the muskies bit the head of it.

But they seem to be a one hit wonder. After catching decent fish on them they don't run as well. They must bend or something???

I love how the lipped 4 plays run but have never did well with them???!!
7.62xJay
Posted 3/14/2022 11:45 PM (#1003510 - in reply to #1003311)
Subject: Re: Jointed glides or swimbaits





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Location: NW WI
Anybody ever run Savage Gears Mag Shine? I bought one this winter, just curious of experiences.
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