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ToddM

Posted 8/20/2020 3:17 PM (#965469 - in reply to #965326)
Subject: Re: Why I use wire leaders

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Location: oswego, il

I have made some hard mono leaders. It is harder than flouro for sure but very visible and never straight it's always curved from being in a coil.

Esox Chaos

Posted 8/24/2020 8:56 AM (#965553 - in reply to #965326)
Subject: Re: Why I use wire leaders

Posts: 21

In the off-season I'm going to start making my own fluoro leaders. I was thinking of 130 lb, and for my area I think that should be sufficient!

Angling Oracle

Posted 8/26/2020 2:45 PM (#965656 - in reply to #965456)
Subject: Re: Why I use wire leaders

Posts: 355

Location: Selkirk, Manitoba

ToddC - 8/19/2020 9:57 PM

Anybody else use hard mono leaders? I’ve been using them for many years with no problems. I think it’s actually tougher than flouro. It seems harder to cut where flouro seems softer. I make my leaders with mostly the 80lb test but have also used 100lb. Cost is cheaper than flouro too. I tie it to the mainline with the SG knot and use a tarpon knot on the lure end with a swivel and staylok snap. I don’t throw pounders with these leaders tho. Mostly topwater, medium blades, cranks and jerkbaits.

I make 130 lb mono leaders for some of my applications. I've caught loads of head-hunting large pike and a few muskies and no issues so far.

My experiences over the years using fluoro leaders on superlines for walleye/bass in pike waters is that it has been brutally inferior to just straight mono (ie having caught probably thousands of pike now on straight mono - jigs, lindy rigs, spinner rigs, etc. My sense is once fluoro is nicked it fails quickly (at least the brands I've used for this application - all quality well known ones hyped as abrasion resistant).

Check out these vids from these saltwater guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jott758rPT4&t=1618s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiQTvmM-1cY&t=5s

Jerry Newman

Posted 8/30/2020 8:28 AM (#965755 - in reply to #965656)
Subject: Re: Why I use wire leaders

Location: 31

Angling Oracle - 8/26/2020 2:45 PM

ToddC - 8/19/2020 9:57 PM Anybody else use hard mono leaders? I’ve been using them for many years with no problems. I think it’s actually tougher than flouro. It seems harder to cut where flouro seems softer. I make my leaders with mostly the 80lb test but have also used 100lb. Cost is cheaper than flouro too. I tie it to the mainline with the SG knot and use a tarpon knot on the lure end with a swivel and staylok snap. I don’t throw pounders with these leaders tho. Mostly topwater, medium blades, cranks and jerkbaits.

I make 130 lb mono leaders for some of my applications. I've caught loads of head-hunting large pike and a few muskies and no issues so far. My experiences over the years using fluoro leaders on superlines for walleye/bass in pike waters is that it has been brutally inferior to just straight mono (ie having caught probably thousands of pike now on straight mono - jigs, lindy rigs, spinner rigs, etc. My sense is once fluoro is nicked it fails quickly (at least the brands I've used for this application - all quality well known ones hyped as abrasion resistant). Check out these vids from these saltwater guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jott758rPT4&t=1618s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiQTvmM-1cY&t=5s

These posts and that side-by-side floral versus mono u-tube test is pretty interesting. Thank you

JMacD

Posted 8/30/2020 9:30 AM (#965759 - in reply to #965326)
Subject: Re: Why I use wire leaders

Posts: 114

Angling Oracle, thanks for finding these clips. Been making my own fluoro and wire leaders for years. Hard to justify continuing using fluoro over cheap mono.

Reef Hawg

Posted 8/30/2020 8:42 PM (#965790 - in reply to #965656)
Subject: Re: Why I use wire leaders

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Location: north central wisconsin

Angling Oracle - 8/26/2020 2:45 PM

My sense is once fluoro is nicked it fails quickly (at least the brands I've used for this application - all quality well known ones hyped as abrasion resistant).

I will watch the video. My reasoning for using floro over mono(in addition to it being near colorless) for walleye/bass, is the fact that it takes more nicks than mono prior to fail. With that said, like you, I have had certain brand/sized floro break with almost zero pressure while fishing zeb beds for smallies and walleyes on the bay or rocks in rivers across midwest. After switching to a higher lb(14 for bass/walleye) in another style in these situations, it performs better than the mono or braid in same lb in same situation. There are alot of variables when it comes to this, but I have definately wasted alot of time/money on some very expensive inferior(or perhaps incorrect) florocarbon prior to settling on the brands/styles I use for each application.

Edited by Reef Hawg 8/30/2020 8:43 PM

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