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Location: oswego, il | Anyone make their own? Let's see them! I have found you have to be careful with salt tubes like the action plastics tube at the top. I rinse them before I make one. Best to use a zinc or nickel hook and nothing plastic against the tube nose. I also glue the head. Remaining salt will rust a bronze hook.
The chartuse tube below it is my favorite, was made by Mann's. 6" long, 1" wide very soft and thick tenacles that pulsate really well. No sslt. Unfortunately no longer made. Somebody needs to buy that mold! The 3rd tube is a nice action plastics and the bottom is a vynil tube same material as the squids. I bought one package from a sale bin it was the only one I have ever seen.. makes a good spinner.
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| The tube is the issue, due to the salt. I was able to order several colors from Moores that worked out great. I have made some very productive baits with creatures etc. but again due to the salt, I need to make them the day I am going to use them. Good fishin. |
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| i made a D10 with a red october tube last year, and on the first cast the tube flew off. Not exactly sure how or why but that was the end of that. Should have just added a dozer style blades to one instead of putting on a shaft i guess. |
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Location: oswego, il | RJ_692 - 4/20/2020 7:23 AM
i made a D10 with a red october tube last year, and on the first cast the tube flew off. Not exactly sure how or why but that was the end of that. Should have just added a dozer style blades to one instead of putting on a shaft i guess.
You meed to glue the head and put a weight or something in there big enough to fill the head to glue it. Take the Mann's tube second one down. It's so soft I once had a pike eat it and it turned the tube inside out on the bait. I started glueing them after that. I made some for some people who fished Vilas and gave them back to redo no tenacles left |
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Location: Brighton CO. | just yesterday I rebuilt some old Rizzo Wiz's and put on a quick change clevises to change blades and did make one from scratch (washed the salt off and used a black nickel hook.) Russ Smith makes the Wiz (he calls it "the Wizzard" ) He has Tony Jr. blessings and bought all the left over parts from Tony Jr. |
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Location: E. Tenn | 3lksmusky - 4/19/2020 7:07 PM
The tube is the issue, due to the salt. I was able to order several colors from Moores that worked out great. I have made some very productive baits with creatures etc. but again due to the salt, I need to make them the day I am going to use them. Good fishin.
Placed an order with Dick this morning, and he assured me his tubes were salt free. |
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| good luck Mike, I have had some of the Moores tubes on my home made wiz's for over 2 years, with no melt down or rust. Great little baits. |
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Location: Western U.P. | chuckski - 4/20/2020 10:49 AM
just yesterday I rebuilt some old Rizzo Wiz's and put on a quick change clevises to change blades and did make one from scratch (washed the salt off and used a black nickel hook.) Russ Smith makes the Wiz (he calls it "the Wizzard" ) He has Tony Jr. blessings and bought all the left over parts from Tony Jr.
What is the name of the company that makes the Wizzard? Did some searches, but didn't come up with anything. |
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Location: oswego, il | Cedar - 4/21/2020 4:34 PM
chuckski - 4/20/2020 10:49 AM
just yesterday I rebuilt some old Rizzo Wiz's and put on a quick change clevises to change blades and did make one from scratch (washed the salt off and used a black nickel hook.) Russ Smith makes the Wiz (he calls it "the Wizzard" ) He has Tony Jr. blessings and bought all the left over parts from Tony Jr.
What is the name of the company that makes the Wizzard? Did some searches, but didn't come up with anything.
Smitty Baits
http://www.smitybait.com/shop/ |
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Location: Brighton CO. | Thanks for the help with my post Todd, things don't always come out as I would like. I feel at work 6+ years ago and am living with concussion syndrome. I took a picture of my Wizzes I rebuilt and one I made and if I can figure out how to post it I will share it with you and the rest of this community. Thanks again Chuck |
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| alrighty guys, forgive me here as im learning. i use tubes quite a bit and build my own harnesses. its all downsized stuff, 5-7" tubes. i use mostly #5 colorados with some willows behind the tenticles with 1/4-3/4oz egg sinkers in the nose. super simple to make with bucktail wire and a piece of leader wire to attach the swivel and blade. based on the weight i choose, if i use the front hook or not and which type of blade, i can use it as a deep jig, shallow twitch, hop it in, glide it back, fish it fast, slow, or a great toss back lure.
ive never considered putting blades in front of the tube as i thought it would limit the versatility which is a strength of the tube. what advantages does a tube spinner have over a standard bucktail? just something different? |
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| i played around with some blades and more wire tonight and created a downsized slopmaster arm that fits a #6 colorado and attaches to the tube via a splitring. you retain the tunes versatility, but add the front blade element and its super easy to take off. people use slops for a more vertical helicopter presentation and around wood, you would be able to do the same with that tube setup. |
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Location: oswego, il | Jax the original size was made to fish deeper and over open water. |
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| ToddM - 4/27/2020 9:56 AM
Jax the original size was made to fish deeper and over open water.
thanks todd! |
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Location: Oconomowoc, WI | Wondering makes tube spinners such as the Rizzo Whizz “special”? I realize they have been a staple in many tackle boxes for years, especially in the spring. Is the tube what makes them effective? Do fish eat them in the initial fall on the cast like a fish May eat a regular tube? Would the spinner be just as effective with hair or some other body material? Just want to hear your opinions on the best qualities of the tube spinner. Thanks - Andy |
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Location: SE, WI. | oconesox - 4/28/2020 6:10 AM Wondering makes tube spinners such as the Rizzo Whizz “special”? I realize they have been a staple in many tackle boxes for years, especially in the spring. Is the tube what makes them effective? Do fish eat them in the initial fall on the cast like a fish May eat a regular tube? Would the spinner be just as effective with hair or some other body material? Just want to hear your opinions on the best qualities of the tube spinner. Thanks - Andy Andy, I think it’s blade first, then the Narrow/thin profile that makes em eatable;). I kinda like the Squid bodies better! JD |
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Location: Brighton CO. | I just come out of the dungen and I had made 3 or 4 mini sized Wizzes for really cold water then I started rooting around all my stuff (junk) and I found a big 1oz egg sinker then some old Tiger Tubes next thing you know I build a jumbo Wizz.
6" tail and I put twin 8 fluted blades on it. This thing should run real deep or real fast on the surface and if nothing else it should cast a mile. Still hopping to have a family member help me to down load my pictures. |
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Location: SW Ohio | An old thread but I have a question about replacing tubes on these lures. I picked up a couple at R&M in eagle river a couple years ago and now, after a few fish, the tubes are pretty well shredded. How do you replace the tubes without ripping a big hole in the end? Looks like Musky Shop has some the right size. Mine are 4" and 5". |
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Location: Brighton CO. | You pretty much have to cut your wire shaft and rebuild your lure. |
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Location: SW Ohio | chuckski - 7/10/2022 2:24 PM
You pretty much have to cut your wire shaft and rebuild your lure.
Thanks. I was wondering if that was the case. |
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Location: oswego, il | OH Musky - 7/10/2022 3:07 PM
chuckski - 7/10/2022 2:24 PM
You pretty much have to cut your wire shaft and rebuild your lure.
Thanks. I was wondering if that was the case.
Yep unless it's hinged at the tube you have to rewire.
I really wish Mann's still made their 6" tube. Chartreuse sparkle in the original post. Fat round tentacles that pulsate. Very soft no salt. I did well with them but they are no longer made. IMHO they were the best tube made for a small spinner. |
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Location: SW Ohio | Canyon plastics has some Gitzits I’m looking at for replacement but they don’t say if they have salt. 3.5, 5 and 6” versions. Not sure of the width but look like they’ll work. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | The Canyon's work well R&H sells them and I use the 5" |
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Location: SW Ohio | chuckski - 7/12/2022 11:32 AM
The Canyon's work well R&H sells them and I use the 5"
Thanks for the confirmation on the canyon's. Looks like another fishing expenditure coming up. It's only money, right?  |
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Location: E. Tenn | OH Musky - 7/12/2022 5:58 PM
chuckski - 7/12/2022 11:32 AM
The Canyon's work well R&H sells them and I use the 5"
Thanks for the confirmation on the canyon's. Looks like another fishing expenditure coming up. It's only money, right? :- )
Look at the bright side... all you need to replace is the wire, and tube.. everything else can be reused..
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Location: Brighton CO. | I use DU-BRO Bucktail Twister witch you can buy at R&H $69.99, but a lot of skilled guys just use a round nose pliers. I've had my twister a couple of years and got it on sale for $50 bucks. And if you buy one of these bucktail makers before you know it you'll have enough bucktail type lures to last several lifetimes. Easy to make and if I can do anyone can. |
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Location: SW Ohio | miket55 - 7/12/2022 9:56 PM
Look at the bright side... all you need to replace is the wire, and tube.. everything else can be reused..
Very true. Already have the wire and twister for other projects.
chuckski - 7/12/2022 11:52 PM
I use DU-BRO Bucktail Twister witch you can buy at R&H $69.99, but a lot of skilled guys just use a round nose pliers. I've had my twister a couple of years and got it on sale for $50 bucks. And if you buy one of these bucktail makers before you know it you'll have enough bucktail type lures to last several lifetimes. Easy to make and if I can do anyone can.
Picked up one earlier this year. Now, I'll have some projects for the winter.
Appreciate all the feedback, guys, |
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Location: NW WI | Check out Canyons homepage as well, more sizes and patterns available there. |
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